Previous earnings proof - employer salary letter

[ashrithb]

Hi

My employer made error in printing my name in pay slips and My 'surname' missing from pay slips.
I am planning to take the employer salary letter rather than salary slips as a proof of previous earnings.

Tier1 settlement guidance says about the employer letter as following.

This is a letter on company headed paper which clearly shows the applicant’s earnings during period claimed, and the date and amount of each payment. This letter should be dated after the period for which earnings are being claimed and should clearly show the applicant’s gross and net pay.”
(Where an employer letter includes only total gross and net earnings figures for the whole earnings period claimed, we will consider this document. However, only where the dates of the earning period and the total gross/net earnings stated in the letter exactly correspond with the information included in the other documentary evidence of these earnings provided, will we be able to award points.)


Planning to use tabular format as below to prepare the employer letter to satisfy the above guideline.

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Month          Gross	  Net	Date of Payment
December 2012  XXXX		XXXX	03/01/2013
January 2013	XXXX		XXXX	04/02/2013

From the guidance document, it says 'date and amount of each payment'.I am confused about the 'date' to be used in employer letter.
In pay slips, normally processing date mentioned as either 30th or 31st of every month, but the salary got credited during the first week of the following month.

Is it right to mention the 'Date of Payment' as salary credited date or Do I need to mention about the salary processing date (normally it is 30th or 31st of month) ?
Incase, If I mention the date as 'salary credited date', my employer may not be knowing when is the salary reached my account and cross verification by ukba with employer will be issue ?
Is the tabular format above reflecting the guidance note or am I missing any information ?

Please help in this regard.

[wpilr_nov12]

If the employer (payroll dept or at least hr dept) should be producing such pay itemised letter, and in that case I doubt they would use date other than the 'normal' pay dates, which does not necessarily have to coincide with the actual paid date( when it reaches your bank).

[arifahmmed]

My employer made error in printing my name in pay slips and My 'surname' missing from pay slips.
I am planning to take the employer salary letter rather than salary slips as a proof of previous earnings.

Your idea is not practical. Your NI number is on Pay slips so those are your pay slips and net pay corresponds with your bank statements. Pay slips contains all informatios (tax , NI, other deductios etc|) and generated from employer accountants farm and pay slips always betterr than employer letter. A standard letter from your employer (on letter headed paper) explaining about the sur name issue should be more than enough.

[ashrithb]

Thanks for your reply.As you mentioned, pay slips contains lot other information like NI,Tax etc. I will try to get the employer letter about the surname issue and submit it along with pay slips.However I have already requested salary letter from employer and received.

Planning to submit following documents for Section 9(A) - evidence of previous earnings.

a).Banks statements
b).Pay slips + employer letter regarding the surname issue
c).Employer salary letter for 12 month period.

Questions:
Is it good idea to submit the payslips and employer salary letter, even though, they both treated as same source of information ?

Section 11(L) :For the period before you were granted leave as a Tier 1 (General) migrant, documents showing that you met the relevant requirements of the immigration rules.

Since the surname not printed in P60 forms as well, I need advice regarding the submitting the P60 forms as a supporting document for section 11(L).
My 5 year qualifying period for ILR is WP(2 years)+Tier2(3 months)+Tier1(3 years), so planning to submit the following documents for section 11(L).

a).Work-permit approval letter
b).Tier 2 approval letter
c).Tier 1 approval letter
d).Employer letter for continuos employment for 5 year period (working with same employer for last 5 years)
e).P60 forms + employer letter about the surname issue.

Question:

Should I treat the document 'P60 forms' as optional document for section 11(L) and incase the case worker asks for it, then submit ?
If P60 can be treated as optional document,I can ask my employer to issue two separate letters for P60 and pay slips about the surname issue.

Or If P60 is mandatory document for section 11(L) , then I can ask my employer to issue one letter (about surname issue) covering for both P60 and pay slips and submit it.

Please help me in this regard.

[arifahmmed]

Thanks for your reply.As you mentioned, pay slips contains lot other information like NI,Tax etc. I will try to get the employer letter about the surname issue and submit it along with pay slips.However I have already requested salary letter from employer and received.

Planning to submit following documents for Section 9(A) - evidence of previous earnings.

a).Banks statements
b).Pay slips + employer letter regarding the surname issue Thats right
c).Employer salary letter for 12 month period.

Questions:
Is it good idea to submit the payslips and employer salary letter, even though, they both treated as same source of information ? One letter from your employer is enough for surmane issue. However you can submit both.
Section 11(L) :For the period before you were granted leave as a Tier 1 (General) migrant, documents showing that you met the relevant requirements of the immigration rules.

Since the surname not printed in P60 forms as well, I need advice regarding the submitting the P60 forms as a supporting document for section 11(L).
My 5 year qualifying period for ILR is WP(2 years)+Tier2(3 months)+Tier1(3 years), so planning to submit the following documents for section 11(L).

a).Work-permit approval letter
b).Tier 2 approval letter
c).Tier 1 approval letter
d).Employer letter for continuos employment for 5 year period (working with same employer for last 5 years)
e).P60 forms + employer letter about the surname issue.

Question:

Should I treat the document 'P60 forms' as optional document for section 11(L) and incase the case worker asks for it, then submit ?
If P60 can be treated as optional document,I can ask my employer to issue two separate letters for P60 and pay slips about the surname issue. NI number written on P60 and pay slips so no problem submitting those documents. Just get only one letter from your employer mentioning name issue on pay slips and p60.
Or If P60 is mandatory document for section 11(L) , then I can ask my employer to issue one letter (about surname issue) covering for both P60 and pay slips and submit it.

Please help me in this regard.

[ashrithb]

One letter from your employer is enough for surname issue. However you can submit both.
Okay, fine.I will submit both.

NI number written on P60 and pay slips so no problem submitting those documents. Just get only one letter from your employer mentioning name issue on pay slips and p60.
Since I have Converted to my visa to Tier1 in April 2010 , I have applied for NI at that time.So NI mentioned in pay slips and P60 since april 2010.

Prior to that, P60 forms not having NI number , but all P60 have Employer PAYE reference: XXX/XXXX.I hope P60s can be linked using Employer PAYE reference.
And please verify the include letter format for name issue.

Letter Format:

To,
UK Border Agency,
Lunar House,
40 Wellesley Road,
Corydon,
CR9 2BY.

Subject: Employment letter and Name printing in pay slips & P60s.

Date:

Dear Sir/Madam,

This is with reference to Mr.XYZ's Indefinite Leave to Remain application. This is to confirm that Mr. XYZ(NI Number: XXX) is employed with ABC Company Limitied (Employer PAYE reference: XXX/XXXX) on a permanent basis for the period of 17-01-2008 to 28-04-2010 & 26-06-2010 to till date and he is currently positioned as {Current Designation}.

This is regarding the Mr.XYZ's full name not printed in PaySlips and P60s.

Pay Slips:
His name is printed as below instead of full name 'XYZ ABC.

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Sr.No            Month                              Name Printed 
1               December 2011               display name printed on pay slip
2               January 2012                  display name printed on pay slip
3               February 2012                 display name printed on pay slip
4               March 2012                     display name printed on pay slip
5               April 2012                       display name printed on pay slip
6               May 2012                        display name printed on pay slip
7               June 2012                       display name printed on pay slip
8               July 2012                        display name printed on pay slip
9               August 2012                    display name printed on pay slip
10             September 2012              display name printed on pay slip
11             October 2012                   display name printed on pay slip
12             November 2012                display name printed on pay slip

P60:
His name is printed as below instead of full name 'XYZ ABC'.

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Sr.No              Year                     Name Printed 
1                2007-2008         display name printed on p60
2                2008-2009         display name printed on p60
3                2009-2010         display name printed on p60
4                2010-2011         display name printed on p60
5                2011-2012         display name printed on p60

Should you require any further information please feel free to contact.


Yours sincerely,



HR Name
{Designation},

Telephone: {phone number}
Email: {email}

[arifahmmed]

Can you tell us your immigtration history and which category you are applying.

Since I have Converted to my visa to Tier1 in April 2010 , I have applied for NI at that time.So NI mentioned in pay slips and P60 since april 2010.

Prior to that, P60 forms not having NI number , but all P60 have Employer PAYE reference: XXX/XXXX.I hope P60s can be linked using Employer PAYE reference.

How did you work with out any NI number. How your Tax and NI contribution deducted from your earnings before that with out NI number.

[ashrithb]

Can you tell us your immigtration history and which category you are applying.
My immigration history is work permit (2 years) + Tier 2 (2 months)+Tier 1 (2.9 years).


How did you work with out any NI number. How your Tax and NI contribution deducted from your earnings before that with out NI number.

I am with the same employer for last 5 years and working with indian based IT company,taxes and NI paid as below.

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Year		 	salary paid in UK 				salary paid in india			Tax paid								NI paid				NI number				Visa status
2007-2008	paid daily allowances in UK    Paid full salary in india	Tax paid for the allowance 		No NI paid(0.00)	Temporary NI number   Workpermit(ICT) 
2008-2009	3/4th salary pain in UK    	1/4th salary paid in india	Tax paid for the allowance 		NI paid				Temporary NI number   	Workpermit(ICT) 
2009-2010	3/4th salary pain in UK			1/4th salary paid in india	Tax paid for the salary			NI paid			Temporary NI number		Workpermit(ICT) 
2010-2011 3/4th salary pain in UK			1/4th salary pain in UK		Tax paid for the salary			NI paid				Proper NI number		*Tier2(ICT)+Tier1
2011-2012 Entire salary paid in UK			No salary paid in india		Tax paid for the salary			NI paid				Proper NI number		Tier1(General)

ICT: Intra Company Transfer
*Tier2(ICT)+Tier1:During this period, for 3 months I was on Tier 2, then converted the visa status to Tier1
Temporary NI number:NI number derived using '{date of birth}+Gender' and used as temporary NI number.
Proper Ni Number:This is actual NI number,got it by applying through Job-centre plus.

When I was on work-permit and Tier2, I came to UK newly and I was not aware of applying for NI.
My employer also not told me to apply for NI.

Later when I converted my visa to tier 1, I came to know through friends that I should apply for NI.

Please advise.

[arifahmmed]

ashrithb your letter format was OK. However when you are applying your ILR. If you have enough time (20 working days) you can request for your employment history and NI contributions during last five years from HMRC. That two letters (one for tax history with paye reference number and other for NI contributions) will have all informations of your tax and NI history. This document will work as back up. You need to ring following HMRC numbers and request for last five yeras employment history TAX and NI. 0191 225 5903,
0191 225 9007,
0191 225 9527,
0191 225 9852