Ex-employer is reluctant to provide me duplicate payslips

[sj2013]

Few weeks ago, I requested my ex-employer via email to provide me duplicate payslips on company headed paper.

After not receiving any reply for sometime I tried to call the HR and I was told that they picked up my email and they'll contact me when they'll have more details. They didn't mention any time frame about how long they may take.

Now it seems to me that, they are not interested about me to provide the payslips. But I need them badly and urgently and can't do without them.

My question is where do I stand if they refuse to give me the payslips?

[Mayurc]

You definitely need payslips as UKBA wants two proof of income so one is your payslips net amount and second is your bank statement.

Is your ex-company location far away where you live? or Send an email to your reporting manager? He/She might be able to help you.

There is no other shortcuts as you need those payslips or last 12 months income summary on your company letter head.

Thanks and all the best

[sj2013]

You definitely need payslips as UKBA wants two proof of income so one is your payslips net amount and second is your bank statement.

Is your ex-company location far away where you live? or Send an email to your reporting manager? He/She might be able to help you.

There is no other shortcuts as you need those payslips or last 12 months income summary on your company letter head.

Thanks and all the best

No, the company is not that far away from where I live, but I'm not sure if their HR gonna see me without an appointment. I'm not sure if they gonna give me an appointment at all as the HR seemed reluctant to even talk to me over the phone.

The line manager I used to work with doesn't work their anymore.

[mulderpf]

You say "duplicate payslips" as opposed to just payslips. Unfortunately there isn't much you can't do if your ex-employer won't issue you with duplicated. Employers have to issue you with payslips (only required to do this once) and you have up to three months after your employments ends, to report them to an Employment Tribunal.

Your other option is to use your P45, but this is rarely useful, but might be depending on when your appointment is and when you started working for the company.

Just to understand your thinking, why didn't you keep the originals filed away somewhere? Surely you have been through this process once before to know what the documentary requirements are? No need to answer this if you don't want to - but would be interesting to know I suppose...

[cs95tdg]

If you were to apply after the end of the Financial year, then you could possibly consider using your P60 as one source of evidence (as an alternative to your payslips). Note that many applicants do not choose this option, as it is not as straight-forward to verify the earnings in this against your second source of evidence (i.e. Bank statements), though not impossible.

But as you say that your need is urgent, I presume you intend to apply before April, if so then this will probably not be an option. One thought; would a HMRC employment history statement be an option here? Or would those also only contain an employment history covering complete financial year(s), rather than cover the period upto the last month? It's a question worth asking, if you are unable to get hold of those payslips.

[sj2013]

You say "duplicate payslips" as opposed to just payslips. Unfortunately there isn't much you can't do if your ex-employer won't issue you with duplicated. Employers have to issue you with payslips (only required to do this once) and you have up to three months after your employments ends, to report them to an Employment Tribunal.

Your other option is to use your P45, but this is rarely useful, but might be depending on when your appointment is and when you started working for the company.

Just to understand your thinking, why didn't you keep the originals filed away somewhere? Surely you have been through this process once before to know what the documentary requirements are? No need to answer this if you don't want to - but would be interesting to know I suppose...

Although I mentioned duplicate payslips, all I need is payslips printed in the headed paper or an income summary in headed paper.

I never used to receive payslips in paper format. I used to receive them electronically in company's email account. As I don't work there anymore I don't have access to that mail box.

[sj2013]

If you were to apply after the end of the Financial year, then you could possibly consider using your P60 as one source of evidence (as an alternative to your payslips). Note that many applicants do not choose this option, as it is not as straight-forward to verify the earnings in this against your second source of evidence (i.e. Bank statements), though not impossible.

But as you say that your need is urgent, I presume you intend to apply before April, if so then this will probably not be an option. One thought; would a HMRC employment history statement be an option here? Or would those also only contain an employment history covering complete financial year(s), rather than cover the period upto the last month? It's a question worth asking, if you are unable to get hold of those payslips.

I need to apply before 5th April. I don't know anything about HMRC employment history but the policy guidance document specifically says about payslips or income summary letter from employer in headed paper.

[mulderpf]

Suggest you read the guidance again then, as it does not specify only these documentary requirements.

[sj2013]

Suggest you read the guidance again then, as it does not specify only these documentary requirements.

I've been reading them again and what I understand from that is tax documents can be used as proof of income if I'm claiming points for exact period in mentioned in the tax documents. The guidance also suggests that applicant should be cautious while using such documents for this reason.

So I reckon I cannot use my p60 for proof of income.

[cs95tdg]

Suggest you read the guidance again then, as it does not specify only these documentary requirements.

I've been reading them again and what I understand from that is tax documents can be used as proof of income if I'm claiming points for exact period in mentioned in the tax documents. The guidance also suggests that applicant should be cautious while using such documents for this reason.

So I reckon I cannot use my p60 for proof of income.

Yes, as you stated you are applying before April, you cannot use your P60. But did you find out whether what I stated before, i.e. the following is possible?

One thought; would a HMRC employment history statement be an option here? Or would those also only contain an employment history covering complete financial year(s), rather than cover the period upto the last month? It's a question worth asking, if you are unable to get hold of those payslips.

Read the following thread for contact information. But unlike what is stated there, you need to find out whether HMRC will issue a statement covering the period you require for your T1G application "previous earnings" instead of fiscal year(s). http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=122291

[sj2013]

Suggest you read the guidance again then, as it does not specify only these documentary requirements.

I've been reading them again and what I understand from that is tax documents can be used as proof of income if I'm claiming points for exact period in mentioned in the tax documents. The guidance also suggests that applicant should be cautious while using such documents for this reason.

So I reckon I cannot use my p60 for proof of income.

Yes, as you stated you are applying before April, you cannot use your P60. But did you find out whether what I stated before, i.e. the following is possible?

One thought; would a HMRC employment history statement be an option here? Or would those also only contain an employment history covering complete financial year(s), rather than cover the period upto the last month? It's a question worth asking, if you are unable to get hold of those payslips.

Read the following thread for contact information. But unlike what is stated there, you need to find out whether HMRC will issue a statement covering the period you require for your T1G application "previous earnings" instead of fiscal year(s). http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=122291

I personally think it'd be really good if HMRC could provide employment history record for non-fiscal year. I only googled to find answer to that question and couldn't find anything definitive. So I'm going to ring and ask them.