Migrating only with European ID withour EU passport

[marcojr]

Hi ! Question...

My wife is about to get his hungarian citizenship.It means that she will receive a Hingarian ID card.

Sounds like the process to grab the passport take a long while.However, she have a brazilian passport.

Is possible to migrate to Ireland without the red passport ? Any chance of refusal and get back to the plane ?

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

What proof of citizenship does she have?

[marcojr]

What proof of citizenship does she have?

Hugarian ID Card as I said.

[jeupsy]

Is the question about her entering Ireland or you accompanying her as the non EEA spouse of an EU citizen?

No problem for her to enter Ireland and start employment with the Hungarian ID, she doesn't need the passport.

If you are not an EEA citizen and want to use EU Treaty Rights to move to Ireland with her, you will not necessarily need her passport to apply for your visa to enter Ireland (if you need one). However you will need it to apply for a residence card once you are in Ireland, so you'd better have it when you go.

[Brigid from Ireland]

IF the EU citizen gets a job in Ireland, the non-EU citizen can move to Ireland with their spouse.
The non-EU citizen needs their non-EU passport and should also bring their original marriage cert.
If they have a hungarian ID card (not passport) they should bring this also.

[jeupsy]

Yes my mistake, I double checked the form EU1 and it requires the "Passport or National Identity Card of EU citizen. So even to apply for the residence card the Hungarian ID is fine.

However marcojr, if you your own citizenship requires a visa to enter Ireland, please note the you won't be visa exempt and you will have to apply for a join partner visa with the Irish embassy of the country where you are currently living (the visa should be free and they can't refuse it unless they think you are a treat to national security or your don't provide acceptable proof of your marriage).

[marcojr]

Sorry ! Just trying to avoid everyone to get into details...Buut..let go...

as I said...the scenario:
Me: Brazilian with Brazilian passport.
She: Double citizenship: Hungarian and Brazilian.Brazilian ID, Hungarian ID and Brazilian Passport (no EU Passport).
My Son: Same as my wife.

For Brazilians, it's not necessary a visa to stay no more then 90 days.

Ok, fine so far...I don't know how the Irish Border officers works, but I know how american works: They first question always is: What are you going 2 do in USA.They expects a answer like: Vacations, Disney.

If they suspect that you have plans to live there...you are really screwed.

In our case: we really have plans to live in Ireland.Our concern is to arrive there with Brazilians passports and then need to answer this question.Sure, we can lie But...Get inside by the frontdoor is always better, right ?

So, wonder it: The officer made the ask and we reply: To LIVE !
The next question probably will be: I can't see any visa on your passport that's make you elective to live !!! So ?

For this situation I'd like to show the Hungarian ID from my son and wife and say to the officer: I am the luggage

And then...after all...when we already inside Ireland, request the Stamp 4 EUFAM.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

An ID card issued by a European member state to its citizens is fine. No need for a passport, it is just a waste of money.

You do not need a visa in advance.