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Surrender Singh - Satisfactory Proof of Self Employment...?

Post by wiggsy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:37 am

So... here is my question...

Whether or not my wife does get a DRF card, im thinking its still beneficial to sort out this proper EEA RC... (5 years PR ETC)

So whats the proof thats required to proove ive been self employed in ireland... does an online business which was set up PRIOR to moving to Ireland countt (web design etc) or do i physically need to do activities IN ireland.

What proof is needed... I can easily "widen" the scope of my "business" so as to be active in Ireland... but would i qualify (photography etc)...

IF i claim JSA CB to go to Ireland (I read that due to law, if i wish to look for work in another country (EEA) i can get up to 6 months CB JSA?) does the time looking for a job on JSA give me a "Worker status" in Ireland. (note: my online business isnt VERY profitable, whilst i do make some money its not a great deal - its just "pocket money" ;) )

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Post by Lucapooka » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:15 am

You need to register your business activity with the Irish tax authorities.

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:39 am


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Post by wiggsy » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:50 am

Directive - Thanks! thats fantastic...

so 10 weeks would be the definate min i would attempt to work for in Ireland.

I guess its a good Idea upon return to have a copy of this webpage too.

my friend confirmed that he/his (BC) wife worked in ireland for this... (they have no kids, and were in pretty much the same state as us).

sadly, as im not all well versed in chinese it doesnt look possible for me to be employed at the restaurant - but they "could employ a driver" in exchange for lodgings (basically - they pay me 200 euros and i pay them that money for rent or something) - but they are asking around for work for me... (I Can go and start work ASAP really, with the common travel area - but UKBA still have my passport etc... - once my wife "joins me" are UKBA likely to hand over her passport... [they hold her passport at Euro atm, but shes on an "administrative removal process" - IS96]

The fact that a JobSeeker is considered a Worker also is possitive...

TBF though... i may like it in Ireland enough to stay... (the only real reason We dont go to wifes country being language ETC)

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Post by wiggsy » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:37 am

also,

as myself, my daughter and son are british... and do not require a passport to travel within the CTA...

should i get my son a passport, or would you consider it a waste at this time...

Myself and Daughter have a passport, - we need to get my wife a new passport as hers expires in march - ireland wont issue a visa to a non-eea with less than 12 months passport (dont know why but still)... (however, i believe my passport expires in about june/july...)

but as son is a baby, i see it as a waste of money to get a passport just yet (5 years passport) since we wont be leaving the CTA for any period of time...

if we go to RoI without a passport for son / my passport expires, could they say we didnt excersise our EU rights?

In my wifes application for EEA2 / DRF i included a letter showing i have previously worked in another member state though - hopefully this will help our case for DRF... Ive asked them to return my passport and daughters ASAP as we require to travel... - but have heard nothing from them - except the first email asked for RM tracking no. Second email reply asked for HO ref no. and third one asked for CID no. a fourth email containing all three, and a complaint has recieved no response...

For Ireland... when we return, how do we present ourselves to UKBA for the code 1A stamp... (i know that from france we go via dover or w.e... but where on Ireland... are UKBA in Ireland, or is it UK side...)

is it possible for me to not get an EEA FP for Ireland and use the Code 1A stamp route for Ireland (I believe its a Stamp 4 in Ireland?) - EEA FP is free, but i doubt we will have much problem travelling, since i hold a passport, as does daughter ETC - and CTA doesnt require passports ETC...

if/when i get a job in ireland, and return to the uk to see family... does this "upset" excersising rights? - i know its prob hard for UKBA to see ive returned to the UK... but?...

also, i see in Ireland i need proof that me and wife were residing together... how do we proove this... is a letter from our "landlord" sufficient... if i stay with "friends" and they write a letter stating "Mr x and mrs X lived in my home for x months between x june - x aug, whilst he was working" would that suffice ?

how about if i get a job and live in a BnB / cheap hotel for a few months? - is a room booking/reciept for x months in our name sufficient?

I notice you posted about "Cheap camp site" in another thread... I was considering getting a towbar fitted on my car (havnt bothered with this car yet) n taking the caravan to "rough it" during the summer... would a camp site pitch count as "living together" if im working also... (if we say £10 night for hook up site, its only 300 month, so not too bad... but guess can find some sites cheaper ;) )

the only two problems i have with going to ireland for EEA return are:
1) where do we live (and prove it)
2) what about a job - how do i get one?

money is not such a problem, as family will help if i need it (plus credit cards ETC / savings are plenty to survive for a year or two on a "small" budget).

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:44 am

Slow down! Do not think so fast or you will get yourself in trouble.

The Eu citizen should always have a passport or ID card. It just simplifies everything. If your passport will expire in the next while, renew it now.

The UK citizen is the key person whose work gives rise to the right of return to the home member state. Kids don't matter. And the non-EU spouse does not matter.

I have not read your whole post but will do later after a coffee.

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Post by wiggsy » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:20 pm

Cheers Directive.


Well I sent an email to the Irish Embasy, asking for the following:
I contacted you previously about working in Ireland.

Can you please clarify the following points for me?
1) How do i apply for a visa for my indonesian wife (EEA Family Permit) so as she can enter Ireland from the UK so as to allow her to work in Ireland along with myself.
When I arrive in Ireland, How do I go about working... Do I need to register with any public bodies?

3) I am considered as being "Habitually resident" in the uk for the purposes of "benefits"... The UK and ROI have an agreement for social security. Should I require to claim any housing support for myself or my family... What assistance would be available to myself?

I have full NHS cover. Do i require health insurance so as to cover medical expences? - i notice that the NHS will cover health care etc...

Thanks,
i got two replies from this:
first:
(Attached: Visa Join Spouse (EU National).pdf / Visa Join Spouse (Work Permit).pdf. (both available at link included)

Mr. x,

Your wife will need to apply for a "D" class visa, (link to application facility below). She will most liekly need to apply for a "Join Spouse" visa, a checklist of required documents is attached.

Please visit our website for visa application details, documents required, office opening hours, etc: http://www.embassyofireland.co.uk/home/ ... x?id=33732

Regards,

Visa Office,
Embassy of Ireland,
London


Second:
Dear Mr x,

Thank you for your e-mail. I have forwarded your Visa query onto the Visa Office so they will be in contact with you re same.

If you plan to work in Ireland you would have to apply for a PPS number, Personal Public Service Number equivalent to NSN, National Security Number in the UK.
If you access the website www.migrantproject.ie and www.citizensinformation.ie all details of above and other relevant information like health and taxes can be accessed.

You will have to contact our Department of Health regarding Health cover and our Department of Environment, Community and Local Government for housing, please access our Government website, www.gov.ie for all contact details.

www.safehomeireland.com is another website that provides information on pensions, benefits, the Irish health care system, Irish benefits available, which British benefits will transfer and which won’t, housing in Ireland, driving and tax.

For property in Ireland, www.daft.ie

I hope this information will be of assistance to you.

Kind regards
Maria
The first reply was pretty much the same as the previous one, without any real help... (although this time actually included the link to website information and attached pdf's)

the second response I didnt solicit as the first one didnt seem too helpful i went elsewhere looking etc...

I must say that this maria was most helpful with such websites ETC. - and it was a pleasant suprise to recieve the email today.

So hopefully this helps somebody else too...

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Post by wiggsy » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:49 pm

Medical Card
OK, Irish Medical Card - simular to a uk's Tax Credit Excemption charge for prescriptions, but includes other charges - such as free doctor visits etc...
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/he ... _card.html

Its an Idea to also have the EHIC card from UK before going to ireland too - that way you limit the impact of being taken ill without the Medical Card.
(Also note: NHS can cover some costs associated for a "trip" to ireland)
http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/Healthcare ... broad.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcare ... ction.aspx

country by country guide for nhs charges:
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcare ... tries.aspx

- note it depends on your stay, and your status... etc as to whether you qualify for nhs treatment etc...

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