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Obviously you are not aware of the recent changes in ILR applications introduced on 13th Dec. As per the new rules you are allowed less than 180 days away from UK every year. The years are calculated backwards from the application date.Wildjoecrazy wrote:Hello
I am looking to apply for ILR. I was granted HSMP in may 2008 and then transitioned onto a Tier 1 extension. My visa is due to expire in May 2013.
My situation is slightly complicated by my absences.
I have had 228 full day absences over the past five years. All of my absences have been due to holiday only. I contracted for 4 out of the 5 years and was in a permanent role for the past year. There most of my leave was unpaid and the last year I have paid annual leave (27 days).
I am trying to work out what my chances are of getting ILR, as pretty much I meet all of the other criteria. I have 85 points on the form O.
I have been told by one agency that my visa is discretionary (due to absences) and therefore it is very unlikely to be granted on the same day basis at the PEO office.
1. If my ILR application was declined, would I be able to reapply for a Tier 1 visa extension, even though this would have expired (ie by the time the ILR is processed).
2. Is it anyone's experience that a discretionary visa, such as mine, is unlikely to be awarded at a PEO office on the same day and would need to go to review or worse to be declined!
3. Has anyone been in my similar situation such as mine with regards to length of absences for holiday purposes only and being granted the ILR?
Any help would be appreciated!
Melanie
I'm not sure whether you have taken the time to read the sticky post I quoted previously (courtesy of db83 who wrote to the SettlementOps team to clarify the very point you are troubled about along with a few other points). I've taken what I feel is relavent to you and pasted it below - Note that sabbatical leave = unpaid leave in case you think the post is not relevant to you. I disagree with the advise you have been given "been advised by one agency that it would be considered complex due to my absences being purely for holiday", to the point the advise seems absurd if you just think about it logically. While I never had as many absences as you when I applied earlier this year, all my absences were for holiday purposes. If not for holiday, what specific purpose would that so called agent, suggest your absences be for, in order for your case to be considered straight-forward?Wildjoecrazy wrote:I am concerned that my application will not be considered on a same day basis at the PEO. As had been advised by one agency that it would be considered complex due to my absences being purely for holiday. I'm not sure what would happen if it went to review seeing as I think the rest of my application is fairly straight forward!
GreenTea's case is a completely different type of application, so I would not compare it with yours.db83 wrote:2. It is becoming quite common for people to go on sabbatical unpaid leave and come back to the country after 3-6 months of well earned break from travelling. If the applicant is on Tier 1 G, he doesn't have to be associated to a single employer and will always be at the liberty of choosing work. If an immigrant on Tier 1 General decides to go on a Sabbatical leave and during this course he decides to be out of the UK for less than 180 days absence in any of the five, two, three or four consecutive 12 month periods - would he still be qualified. Although the guidance says that no reason needs to be given when the absence is less than 180 days a year (unless its compelling or compassionate) - I'd like to check specifically for sabbatical leave as this is not covered under your policy guidance.
I appreciate that the sabbatical leave is not related to work - but at the same time a constraint cannot be applied on someone working in the UK as Tier 1 immigrant not to take sabbatical unpaid leave on their own as it will effect their ILR.
And this was the answer...
For the purpose of data sensitivity, I've removed my email addresses and the full name of the person from UKBA who replied this email.
Settlement Ops Policy Mailbox
to me
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your e mail.
If a migrant had spent a total of 200 days outside of the UK during any of the consecutive 12 month periods of the continuous period (which is counted backwards in 12 month blocks from date of application), they would have broken continuity and their application would fall for refusal. However, if this was a single absence which spanned 2 of the consecutive 12 month periods, then the total of 180 days in any one 12 month period may not have been exceeded.
2. You are correct in saying that Tier 1 (General) migrants are not required to be in constant employment, as they are granted this type of visa on the understanding that they will come the UK to seek highly skilled employment or to become self-employed. It is for this reason that they are not required to provide evidence of their absences from the UK, as it is likely that evidence of absences would be self-generated.
As you will be aware, provided a Tier 1 (General) migrant can demonstrate that they have the required number of points for previous earnings, they do not need to demonstrate that they have been employed throughout the whole 15 month period immediately prior to making their settlement application.
With regards to the number of days outside of the UK that will not be considered to break continuity, this is the same for all category of migrants, regardless of whether they can qualify for settlement after 2,3,4 or 5 years.
Mate, seriously I think you are complicating you own case. I went for my ILR yesterday having a break of 6 months while I was on Tier 1 and it was approved with no questions asked about absence. I made sure to list my absences for the last 5 years year/year basis and highlighted that it did not cross more than 180 days in any of the 12 month periodWildjoecrazy wrote:Hello
Just paid an exorbitant amount for a 30 minute consultation with an immigration advisor. Was advised that my days exceed the required amount and it is unlikely that the Immigration Officer will exercise discretion. The Advisor was adament that it is 180 days over a 5 year period, with exception of compassionate or compelling or work related reasons.
I have been advised by one visa advisory service that although I am over the allocated threshold, that if I demonstrated I was economically active, paid taxes, and that UK was my main residence for past five years that I had a good chance of ILR. I brought this up with the paid Immigration Advisor and she said that this was not the case and I would have to demonstrate this anyway and that the issue is the amount of leave taken out of the country.
docmac80 - have you already spoken to an immigration advisor about your case?
More confused then before. Considering extension of Tier 1 - more pain free!
Melanie