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salary for ILR based on 5y WP-applications made after 5/4/13

Post by lxx » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:13 pm

Can any one confirm that these are still good for ILR applications made after 5 April 2013?

By the way when would the new forms be available?

Many thanks :)

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... appendixj/
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Post by lxx » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:15 pm

and, what are " SOC2000 codes" or "SOC2010 codes"?

Have to say I don't have a clue :cry:

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Post by ILR05 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:32 pm

For all applicant immigration rules are bible. Whatever written in immigration rules are defined, it is followed.
As per current immigration rule for TIER2(ICT) section 245 GF(e) mention:-

(e) The sponsor that issued the Certificate of Sponsorship that led to the applicant's last grant of leave must certify in writing that:

(i) he still requires the applicant for the employment in question, and

(ii) he is paid at or above the appropriate rate for the job as stated in the Codes of Practice in Appendix J.

So it proves section J is still referred.

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Post by Kevin24 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:43 pm

lxx wrote:and, what are " SOC2000 codes" or "SOC2010 codes"?

Have to say I don't have a clue :cry:
Read the SOC 2010,it is very easy to understand.After 06/04 ,the New Form will adhere to SOC 2010,Not SOC 2000. Your Job and List of Duties should exactly match or a nearest match,and should be quoted in your Employer's letter for ILR. Also,the other post refers how your Employer should word your ILR letter.Hope this helps.Now need to Cry :D :D

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Post by ILR05 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:09 pm

If someone going for ILR in April, his tier2 has been approved using SOC code 2000 then how come SOC 2010 will be applicable.
It may happen that person has to match salary requirement but it will be contradiction to show different SOC code in employer letter.

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Post by Kevin24 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:43 pm

ILR05 wrote:If someone going for ILR in April, his tier2 has been approved using SOC code 2000 then how come SOC 2010 will be applicable.
It may happen that person has to match salary requirement but it will be contradiction to show different SOC code in employer letter.
Most of the SOC Codes 2010 are still the same as SOC 2000. There is a a difference in Salaries.

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Re: salary for ILR based on 5y WP-applications made after 5/

Post by tsujay » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:25 pm

Also, statement of intent mention as below

Only those who entered Tier 2 (or the work permit arrangements) before 6 April 2011 may be paid below these thresholds, when they apply to extend their stay, change employment, or settle in the UK. [i][b]However, in most of these cases, the “experienced worker” rate will apply; the “new entrant”
rate will only be relevant to those applicants who have been in Tier 2 and/or the work permit arrangements for less than 3 years and 1 month in total when they make their next application.[/b][/i]

Can someone please clarify this. It mentions 'may be paid below these thresholds and also it mentions however the experienced worker rate will apply. I am bit confused with this sentence.

My profile is - Civil engineer on work permit since sep 2008 but my salary is appropriate to SOC 2000 which is around 21000 but according to SOC 2010 salary of experienced worker needs to be 27900. Please clarify whether new salary requirement applies to work permit holder or not.

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Post by lxx » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:36 pm

ILR05 wrote:For all applicant immigration rules are bible. Whatever written in immigration rules are defined, it is followed.
As per current immigration rule for TIER2(ICT) section 245 GF(e) mention:-

(e) The sponsor that issued the Certificate of Sponsorship that led to the applicant's last grant of leave must certify in writing that:

(i) he still requires the applicant for the employment in question, and

(ii) he is paid at or above the appropriate rate for the job as stated in the Codes of Practice in Appendix J.

So it proves section J is still referred.
Thanks mate

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Post by lxx » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:39 pm

ILR05 wrote:If someone going for ILR in April, his tier2 has been approved using SOC code 2000 then how come SOC 2010 will be applicable.
It may happen that person has to match salary requirement but it will be contradiction to show different SOC code in employer letter.
Thanks for the response.

Just checked the SOC code stays the same, however where can I find the salary requirements equivalent to this link?

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... e2012-cop/

(it states "Occupation codes of practice for Tier 2 - valid until 5 April 2013")

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Post by lxx » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:52 pm

Kevin24 wrote:
ILR05 wrote:If someone going for ILR in April, his tier2 has been approved using SOC code 2000 then how come SOC 2010 will be applicable.
It may happen that person has to match salary requirement but it will be contradiction to show different SOC code in employer letter.
Most of the SOC Codes 2010 are still the same as SOC 2000. There is a a difference in Salaries.
Thanks a lot Kevin.

Had a lot at SOC Codes 2010, as you said the code was just the same (hopefully the following is the correct link?)

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... 47Ec9UaR5g

Now the problem is that I could not find the salary requirements equivalent to this link for applications after 6 April:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... e2012-cop/

(it states "Occupation codes of practice for Tier 2 - valid until 5 April 2013")

I have looked at Statement of Intent: codes of practice for skilled workers at the following link:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... orkers.pdf

however there are just 2 thresholds for new entrant and experienced worker but both salary are considerably lower than what was required on "Occupation codes of practice for Tier 2 - valid until 5 April 2013".

My employer has already done the letter for me, what should I do now?

Thanks again :D

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Post by lxx » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:20 pm

:(

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Post by dk2011 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:41 pm

The requirement says you should get at least what is mentioned based on whether you are experienced or entrant and not exactly the same amount.

Moreover , your SOC code is unchanged so i don't see any issue .

All the best !!!

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Post by ILR05 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:17 pm

Dear Kevin,

I am referring your response:

Read the SOC 2010,it is very easy to understand.After 06/04 ,the New Form will adhere to SOC 2010,Not SOC 2000. Your Job and List of Duties should exactly match or a nearest match,and should be quoted in your Employer's letter for ILR. Also,the other post refers how your Employer should word your ILR letter.Hope this helps.Now need to Cry

You have mentioned that other post refers how your employer should word your ILR Letter. Can you please send the link.

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Post by lxx » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:58 am

dk2011 wrote:The requirement says you should get at least what is mentioned based on whether you are experienced or entrant and not exactly the same amount.

Moreover , your SOC code is unchanged so i don't see any issue .

All the best !!!
Thanks a lot

However my employer's letter does not mention the figure for salary requirement in COP (as the employer is not sure which figure to show), will that be a problem?

The letter does say my salary "over the appropriate rate" as my salary exceeds both figures in the old(higher) and new(lower) COP.

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Post by Kevin24 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:22 pm

ILR05 wrote:Dear Kevin,

I am referring your response:

Read the SOC 2010,it is very easy to understand.After 06/04 ,the New Form will adhere to SOC 2010,Not SOC 2000. Your Job and List of Duties should exactly match or a nearest match,and should be quoted in your Employer's letter for ILR. Also,the other post refers how your Employer should word your ILR letter.Hope this helps.Now need to Cry

You have mentioned that other post refers how your employer should word your ILR Letter. Can you please send the link.
No problem Mate! Look at Sticky's Template and change the wordings according to your Employer's letter format.

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