Interview postpone by UKBA

mian · Post by **mian** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:07 pm

hello friends

today UKBA call to my solicitor and they told him they postpone our interview which gonna held on 18th April,
and ASAP they rescheduled it,
im really disappointed, coz I already take week off from my job, I already book the room in Liverpool, already book travelling ticket,
(
any idea why they postpone it ? 1st time I request them to change the date coz my legal representative was not available on that date and 2nd time they postpone it
more than 5 months gone

why they do this ?

reabs · Post by **reabs** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:37 pm

They are in a bit of a shambles - you only needed to see the recent episode of Dispatches on channel 4 to realise this. The cost to applicants is incredibly high but they don't really give a damn. Hopefully, the next date given will stick and you get your visa. Good luck.

Post by **sheraz7** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:55 pm

Probably that happens because of high number of applications and low number of available staff. It will certainly cause huge inconvenience to you but whatever new date they will reschedule you definitely get enough time for arrangements.

mian · Post by **mian** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:06 pm

ye i understand , but im waiting for my visa from more than 5 months, if they dont time or enough staff then why they call us for interview ? even they know we are ready to come for interview, and UKBA inform us just 1 day before the interview ?

i take week off from my job my wife take 2 days off ,

Post by **sheraz7** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:16 pm

At the end of 6th month you are fully eligible for lodging a formal complaint regarding their unnecessary delays. And you can also mention the inconvenience you are suffering along with complaint.

mian · Post by **mian** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:24 pm

ye i will thanks....

Post by **Directive/2004/38/EC** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:41 pm

Ask for them to pay the expenses you incurred.

boloney · Post by **boloney** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:11 pm

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Ask for them to pay the expenses you incurred.

thats what OP should do, no even ask, just send them an invoice to pay, give them 30 days, if not paid send reminder and than small claims court.
they just wanna give us as much inconvenience as possible.

flipper77 · Post by **flipper77** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:31 pm

mian wrote:ye i understand , but im waiting for my visa from more than 5 months, if they dont time or enough staff then why they call us for interview ? even they know we are ready to come for interview, and UKBA inform us just 1 day before the interview ?
i take week off from my job my wife take 2 days off ,

I'd agree that they should have to pay for your expenses (i.e. non-refundable train tickets, non-refundable accommodation etc), however I'm intrigued as to why you took an entire week off work? I'm not sure that they'd pay compensation to cover that entire week.

UKBA HUNTER · Post by **UKBA HUNTER** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:36 pm

boloney wrote:
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Ask for them to pay the expenses you incurred.
thats what OP should do, no even ask, just send them an invoice to pay, give them 30 days, if not paid send reminder and than small claims court.
they just wanna give us as much inconvenience as possible.

UKBA HUNTER · Post by **UKBA HUNTER** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:36 pm

boloney wrote:
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Ask for them to pay the expenses you incurred.
thats what OP should do, no even ask, just send them an invoice to pay, give them 30 days, if not paid send reminder and than small claims court.
they just wanna give us as much inconvenience as possible.

UKBA HUNTER · Post by **UKBA HUNTER** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:38 pm

boloney wrote:
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Ask for them to pay the expenses you incurred.
thats what OP should do, no even ask, just send them an invoice to pay, give them 30 days, if not paid send reminder and than small claims court.
they just wanna give us as much inconvenience as possible.

wiggsy · Post by **wiggsy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:41 pm

flipper77 wrote: I'm not sure that they'd pay compensation to cover that entire week.

a lot off employers wont pay holiday pay for individual days... to get your wage as normal you need a weeks holiday...

i agree - send the invoice... i'd start off with an email, followed by posted letter...

get the loss of earnings involved too! - ie: 2x £100 days or w/e...

they shouldnt be able to do this - you cant cancel a pEO appointment without loosing £100 now... so they should stick to that... ESP with just 1 days notice!!!

UKBA HUNTER · Post by **UKBA HUNTER** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:48 pm

boloney wrote: thats what OP should do, no even ask, just send them an invoice to pay, give them 30 days, if not paid send reminder and than small claims court.
they just wanna give us as much inconvenience as possible.

That is entirely wrong suggestion because OP is an applicant not a bailiff who send invoice and reminders as it will further aggravate the case. As suggested above a formal way of complaint should follow by mentioning the suffering discomfort in amount and time.

wiggsy · Post by **wiggsy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:02 pm

UKBA HUNTER wrote:
boloney wrote: thats what OP should do, no even ask, just send them an invoice to pay, give them 30 days, if not paid send reminder and than small claims court.
they just wanna give us as much inconvenience as possible.
That is entirely wrong suggestion because OP is an applicant not a bailiff who send invoice and reminders as it will further aggravate the case. As suggested above a formal way of complaint should follow by mentioning the suffering discomfort in amount and time.

anybody is open to use small claims court, not only balifs

you have to invoice and then send preaction letter

its then down to the courts to decide and in this case im sure the courts would find in applicants favour... not ukba...

the applicant made out expenses because of an appointment with ukba... ukba made a "contract" with them, which resulted in a financial loss for the applicant...

Post by **sheraz7** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:51 pm

Involving court to recover expenses at EEA2 processing stage is certainly ridiculous because efforts should be to get rid of them instead of provoke them further. Because the expense you intended to recover might incur further cost in the form of waste of time due to court notifications/action involvement. Just get rid of them instead of giving them any loophole to delay further.

wiggsy · Post by **wiggsy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:59 pm

you understand that you can invoice the homeoffice for time on the case also...

if you need to take the case to court, you recover court fees and a "reasonable charge" for the time preparing for the case etc...

- plus interest on the balance...

=== and regardless... PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BEND OVER TO GET SHAFTED... THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND ACTIONS HAVE CONCEQUENCES!

Post by **sheraz7** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:09 pm

wiggsy wrote:you understand that you can invoice the homeoffice for time on the case also...

Any official link or atleast member personal experience's link to support as written above?

wiggsy · Post by **wiggsy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:25 pm

sheraz7 wrote:
wiggsy wrote:you understand that you can invoice the homeoffice for time on the case also...
Any official link or atleast member personal experience's link to support as written above?

personal experience for invoicing a client who didnt pay his bills... I invoiced him at £20 per hour for time spent on the case

including writing letters etc...

google for "what can i include in my small claims figure" lots of information available

UKBA are no different to any client etc...

in the end it comes down to "who is right and who is wrong"

http://www.courtroomadvice.co.uk/how-ma ... court.html
http://www.courtroomadvice.co.uk/small- ... imant.html
http://www.netlawman.co.uk/ia/money-claim-online

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/y ... claims.htm

http://www.smallclaimsrus.co.uk/faqs.html

Post by **sheraz7** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:09 pm

Still need the official linked suggested by european regulations that an applicant can charge to visa issuing authority for its case. Anyhow do you think that UKBA will care either you live next door to them in Liverpool or travelling all the way from london or do they care you taken 1 day off or all week off, do they care you come by expensive airline or by economical bus. NO. Do You know that member state RC issuing authority can carry out checks to determine the legality of case in accordance of EU regulations. And yes at the end of 6th month an applicant has the right to complaint along with his sufferings too.

wiggsy · Post by **wiggsy** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:05 am

sheraz7 wrote:Still need the official linked suggested by european regulations that an applicant can charge to visa issuing authority for its case. Anyhow do you think that UKBA will care either you live next door to them in Liverpool or travelling all the way from london or do they care you taken 1 day off or all week off, do they care you come by expensive airline or by economical bus. NO. Do You know that member state RC issuing authority can carry out checks to determine the legality of case in accordance of EU regulations. And yes at the end of 6th month an applicant has the right to complaint along with his sufferings too.

yes, but the fact remains: IF THEY ASK YOU TO COME TO AN INTERVIEW AND CANCEL LAST MINUTE: THEY ARE LIABLE FOR YOUR LOSSES! - Its a breach of contract. - even if its only to get a RC. its a contract in which youve laid out money to waste... that money can be reclaimed.

Its called concequential losses...

google search

See the following:
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shoppi ... ery-rights

it doesnt only apply to "delivery of goods" it includes services ETC... and the services dont need to be paid for...

hence why almost all Ts and Cs prevent consequential losses... (does UKBA's appointment invitation prevent claiming consequential losses?)
http://www.spotless-detailing.co.uk/con ... onditions/
http://www.npower.com/home/terms-and-co ... /index.htm
http://www.myzanadoo.com/aboutus/terms_conditions

mian · Post by **mian** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:15 am

sheraz7 wrote:Still need the official linked suggested by european regulations that an applicant can charge to visa issuing authority for its case. Anyhow do you think that UKBA will care either you live next door to them in Liverpool or travelling all the way from london or do they care you taken 1 day off or all week off, do they care you come by expensive airline or by economical bus. NO. Do You know that member state RC issuing authority can carry out checks to determine the legality of case in accordance of EU regulations. And yes at the end of 6th month an applicant has the right to complaint along with his sufferings too.

they call me for interview at 9am, even they knows its take about 5 hours to travel london to liverpool,

mian · Post by **mian** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:17 am

i dont understand, everyone get their resident card without the interview, but whats wrong with my documents ? if they dont have time for interview then they need to be issue RC ,
they said they will send appologies letter then they rechedule it , stupiddddd

Post by **sheraz7** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:14 pm

mian wrote:i dont understand, everyone get their resident card without the interview, but whats wrong with my documents ? if they dont have time for interview then they need to be issue RC ,
they said they will send appologies letter then they rechedule it , stupiddddd

Just be remembered that Calling for interview is a most recent strategy and many EEA2 applicants are undergoing now the same type of interviews. The most relevant thread you can refer at:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... highlight=

milka · Post by **milka** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:26 pm

My friends ( Polish, Indian) were asked to come for an interview to Liverpool. Girl 8 months pregnant but they went there and after two weeks they received passports with RC.

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