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Post by as0126 » Fri May 03, 2013 12:39 pm

Hi,

I need some information about my friend who left the country 6 years ago because he overstayed his student visa for 5 years (voluntary deportation through IOM ) and he also had some loans and credit card dues which he never paid off and IOM never asked him to pay them off but let him leave.

Now he would like to visit UK as a visitor as he recently been to most of the Europe. America and Canada for holidays with his family.

My question is if he applies the visit visa he will have to declare it on the form about his deportation and some other relevant information, what are his chances in terms of getting a visit visa to uk with his family ? Once he has applied what kind of problems he could face because of his deportation and the money he owed?

Many thanks in advance

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Post by batleykhan » Fri May 03, 2013 3:53 pm

Its better to be honest with the information that you give as failure to so could result more problems in future

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Post by deleted_user » Fri May 03, 2013 3:57 pm

Money owed is eventually written off (as bad debt) after the individual cannot be contacted/located for a while. I know of several Britons who shared house with me who took loans and phone contracts they never paid and left the house. The companies kept sending them letters, sometimes sent someone around and finally gave up. They did mark our address down so it became harder for later genuine occupants to get credit cards and contract phones.

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Post by Amber » Fri May 03, 2013 4:56 pm

dimension7 wrote:Money owed is eventually written off (as bad debt) after the individual cannot be contacted/located for a while. I know of several Britons who shared house with me who took loans and phone contracts they never paid and left the house. The companies kept sending them letters, sometimes sent someone around and finally gave up. They did mark our address down so it became harder for later genuine occupants to get credit cards and contract phones.
Debts are not written off or if they are it's after the debtor has died or it was a fraud. If you ignore those debt collection companies you may find that the debt is passed to a solicitors and a CCJ issued. The only time a CCJ cannot be issued (or if issued can be set aside) is if the debt is statute barred. This can prove an issue if you wish to naturalise yourself as a BC in the future.
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Post by as0126 » Fri May 03, 2013 5:06 pm

batleykhan wrote:Its better to be honest with the information that you give as failure to so could result more problems in future
Many thanks for your reply.

I have asked him to contact you directly by using the Facebook link you have provided.

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Post by as0126 » Fri May 03, 2013 7:03 pm

D4109125 wrote:
dimension7 wrote:Money owed is eventually written off (as bad debt) after the individual cannot be contacted/located for a while. I know of several Britons who shared house with me who took loans and phone contracts they never paid and left the house. The companies kept sending them letters, sometimes sent someone around and finally gave up. They did mark our address down so it became harder for later genuine occupants to get credit cards and contract phones.
Debts are not written off or if they are it's after the debtor has died or it was a fraud. If you ignore those debt collection companies you may find that the debt is passed to a solicitors and a CCJ issued. The only time a CCJ cannot be issued (or if issued can be set aside) is if the debt is statute barred. This can prove an issue if you wish to naturalise yourself as a BC in the future.
Thanks for your reply,

I think his worries are if he gets the visa or apply for it, Could it be a problem for him as his CCJ might come up on their system and create more problems for him?
Thanks

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Post by Amber » Fri May 03, 2013 8:56 pm

as0126 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
dimension7 wrote:Money owed is eventually written off (as bad debt) after the individual cannot be contacted/located for a while. I know of several Britons who shared house with me who took loans and phone contracts they never paid and left the house. The companies kept sending them letters, sometimes sent someone around and finally gave up. They did mark our address down so it became harder for later genuine occupants to get credit cards and contract phones.
Debts are not written off or if they are it's after the debtor has died or it was a fraud. If you ignore those debt collection companies you may find that the debt is passed to a solicitors and a CCJ issued. The only time a CCJ cannot be issued (or if issued can be set aside) is if the debt is statute barred. This can prove an issue if you wish to naturalise yourself as a BC in the future.
Thanks for your reply,

I think his worries are if he gets the visa or apply for it, Could it be a problem for him as his CCJ might come up on their system and create more problems for him?
Thanks
Which family relatives are here? He overstayed 5 years! What is going to make the ukba believe he won't do it again?
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Post by as0126 » Sat May 04, 2013 2:58 pm

D4109125 wrote:
as0126 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
dimension7 wrote:Money owed is eventually written off (as bad debt) after the individual cannot be contacted/located for a while. I know of several Britons who shared house with me who took loans and phone contracts they never paid and left the house. The companies kept sending them letters, sometimes sent someone around and finally gave up. They did mark our address down so it became harder for later genuine occupants to get credit cards and contract phones.
Debts are not written off or if they are it's after the debtor has died or it was a fraud. If you ignore those debt collection companies you may find that the debt is passed to a solicitors and a CCJ issued. The only time a CCJ cannot be issued (or if issued can be set aside) is if the debt is statute barred. This can prove an issue if you wish to naturalise yourself as a BC in the future.
Thanks for your reply,

I think his worries are if he gets the visa or apply for it, Could it be a problem for him as his CCJ might come up on their system and create more problems for him?
Thanks
Which family relatives are here? He overstayed 5 years! What is going to make the ukba believe he won't do it again?
He has got his brother here in UK, He himself lives in UAE, Married and has a kid, His wife works in a bank and he has got a very good job over there BUT he only worries if they gonna arrest him at the Airport or when he applies for the visit visa because of the money he owed in the past, he got European visa and American and Canadian visa without any problem and he had been there for holidays already.
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Post by Amber » Sat May 04, 2013 3:19 pm

as0126 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
as0126 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
Debts are not written off or if they are it's after the debtor has died or it was a fraud. If you ignore those debt collection companies you may find that the debt is passed to a solicitors and a CCJ issued. The only time a CCJ cannot be issued (or if issued can be set aside) is if the debt is statute barred. This can prove an issue if you wish to naturalise yourself as a BC in the future.
Thanks for your reply,

I think his worries are if he gets the visa or apply for it, Could it be a problem for him as his CCJ might come up on their system and create more problems for him?
Thanks
Which family relatives are here? He overstayed 5 years! What is going to make the ukba believe he won't do it again?
He has got his brother here in UK, He himself lives in UAE, Married and has a kid, His wife works in a bank and he has got a very good job over there BUT he only worries if they gonna arrest him at the Airport or when he applies for the visit visa because of the money he owed in the past, he got European visa and American and Canadian visa without any problem and he had been there for holidays already.
Thanks
Not paying your debts is generally a civil offence (no arrest) unless the debts were taken out by fraud i.e. inflated income. If he overstayed 5 years and was removed I think he would be hard pushed to prove he will not do it again.
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Post by batleykhan » Sat May 04, 2013 4:01 pm

D4109125 wrote:
as0126 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
as0126 wrote:
Thanks for your reply,

I think his worries are if he gets the visa or apply for it, Could it be a problem for him as his CCJ might come up on their system and create more problems for him?
Thanks
Which family relatives are here? He overstayed 5 years! What is going to make the ukba believe he won't do it again?
He has got his brother here in UK, He himself lives in UAE, Married and has a kid, His wife works in a bank and he has got a very good job over there BUT he only worries if they gonna arrest him at the Airport or when he applies for the visit visa because of the money he owed in the past, he got European visa and American and Canadian visa without any problem and he had been there for holidays already.
Thanks
Not paying your debts is generally a civil offence (no arrest) unless the debts were taken out by fraud i.e. inflated income. If he overstayed 5 years and was removed I think he would be hard pushed to prove he will not do it again.
Unless he can show good ties and reasons to return home this time, he may just get it, despite previous misdemeanor :wink:

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