Spam.co.uk A FRAUD BE AWARE OF THEM

mnnouman · Post by **mnnouman** » Mon May 27, 2013 11:49 am

A work permit granting firm " Spam 8 " or Spam.co.uk is a fraud company. It targets migrants in two ways

1. For people within UK, it promises to get them UK tier 2 visa without any contract, for the sake of 500 pound surety deposit. HOWEVER no company can grant tier 2 CoS without job offer. SO THAT IS ILLEGAL

2. For people outside UK, it promises to get them both contract and then a tier 2 visa for the sake of varying amount of money. This is not placement agency and hence cannot get migrants the contracts and thereby the visas. SO BE AWARE OF THEM.

People like " Sherly Price" and " Merilyn " will send you email from inquiry email ID and that suggests SCAM !

Please do not risk your money and career by getting involved with Spam online.

reabs · Post by **reabs** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:27 am

Thanks for communicating your concerns to all - there are lots of dodgy people out there looking to grab money from people desperate to get a better life.

I've looked at that website though as well as that of their sister site - workpermitconsultants.com and to be quite frank, I don't see anything dodgy about them. They make no false promises about Tier 2 and tell it like it is.

The only thing they are guilty of is asking for £350 for simple document checking - something you can get elsewhere for £200 less. So, yes they are expensive but dodgy? I doubt it. If you have had a negative experience with them, you have avenues for redress. CAB is a good starting point. They aren't hiding and have an established business address and their identities will be known to various parties including their letting agent, HMRC and the local council.

mnnouman · Post by **mnnouman** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:05 am

Thanks for fighting their case. Will you reply me a simple question ?

Is it legal to offer tier 2 CoS to the candidates having no job offer ? Is it legal to issue CoS to someone first and THEN giving him 3 months to find " job" ??? Do you not know that CoS is something which is given AFTER the job has been acquired ???

They are doing this. They are offering CoS first ! and then telling people to find jobs ON THE BASIS of that CoS. THIS IS ILLEGAL.

They are providing services WHICH ARE ILLEGAL !

Thanks for telling me " ways".

mnnouman · Post by **mnnouman** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:14 am

If you prove to me that issuing CoS to someone without giving him a job offer is correct and legal, I will delete this post and I can prove that they are doing it. They are asking people to give them certain amount in return on which, they giving CoS, without any JOB OFFER at all, no one is allowed by UKBA to give CoS but no job.

I'm not trying to defame any organisation, my only intention is to let poor countrymen know that they need to avoid illegal stuff.

reabs · Post by **reabs** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:47 am

You mistake me. I merely consulted what they have stated on this link. From what is there, everything appears to be above board.

I applaud your intentions and wish there were more like you. If you have specific information that could be used to stop this alleged practice, it would be awesome if you could forward this on to the authorities. Not everyone would be lucky to chance by this forum and see your caution so they would be falling into a trap that could have been eliminated.

Rexram · Post by **Rexram** » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:59 pm

thanks for posting.

I have also had dealings with this company. They told me they get COS and then I find job in UK. If I dont in 3 months they cancel permit and keep my £500 I pay them.

"Marylin" and "Sherley Price" do not speak on phone - its a SCAM!!!

jigiboy · Post by **jigiboy** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:03 am

Do you have any instances to prove that Spam 8 Online is a fraud? I see that they are listed on OISC and the list of A rated sponsors on the UKBA site?

Do let me know if you have any such instances where they have cheated people

The Station Agent · Post by **The Station Agent** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:16 am

It is surely a scam (and possibly illegal) to offer Tier 2 CoS for people who do not have a job here at the time the CoS is issued, because the job has to meet certain criteria.

Rexram · Post by **Rexram** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:05 pm

No 'instance' as such but when I call 'Spam 8' a number of times to discuss, the lady on the phone would say a different company name and I was told that Marilyn and Sherley do not speak on phone.

I received an email from Marilyn with terms and conditions saying Do not show this to anyone

I also have email from her saying 'You will all be aware you are supposed to have a job in place before this is done' They say they will 'advertise' a job for me on Reed even though I do not really have a job.

This raises some concerns as to why this is a scam.

Post by **PaperPusher** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:43 am

A Tier 2 sponsor must pay the salary on the COS.

Imagine these two scenarios:

Company A is an engineering firm that issues a COS to sponsor the Tier 2 worker. The worker starts but there is no work for them. Company A works on projects but the project they want the employee to do hasn't started yet. The worker comes in to the office, gets paid, but doesn't start working on a project for company B for a couple of months. Company A doesn't take money out of the person's wages, but the rate they bill clients may be more than the contractor is paid as their salary of course! They charge no up front fees either because the person is their employee. The employee may also get involved with looking for project work. The employee may lose their job if they are on the bench for too long with no projects to work on. This scenario is fine.

Company B is a business that sponsors a Tier 2 migrant. The Tier 2 worker has no work to do, but does not get paid. They look for their contract and the money goes to B and only then do they get paid with B taking a cut. B may even charge the migrant fees for the COS which is not the cost of the visa and/or COS. The migrant has no manager to report to, and B is not otherwise involved in what they do other than taking a cut of the fee charged to the client. This scenario is not OK at all.

Report people like B to UKBA if you wish. Any evidence would help too.

jigiboy · Post by **jigiboy** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:57 am

I guess both the scenarios must be existing.
In any case are you aware of any consultants/agencies or companies that will help me to get a Tier2 general Visa?

Rexram · Post by **Rexram** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:19 pm

I can say that Spam is option B. Can anyone please advise to who I can report this to?

Also I have been investigating and my friend told me that he had dealings with this company some time back and when they had a routine visit from the Home Office, they asked him to sit in office to pretend he worked for them when he actually didn't have a job.

I have some documents from them I am wondering if I should go to the papers or Home Office?

Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

Post by **manci** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:25 am

https://report-ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/

Rexram · Post by **Rexram** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:25 pm

Thank you.

I will report them today and send the documents they sent me to the Home Office.

jigiboy · Post by **jigiboy** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:17 pm

I hope you have all the facts else you will be in trouble.
I am sure these people are smart enough to take care of such things.
By dong this you are also denying people who want to come to UK and work(using option B) to have a better life.

Post by **PaperPusher** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:27 pm

jigiboy wrote:I hope you have all the facts else you will be in trouble.
I am sure these people are smart enough to take care of such things.
By dong this you are also denying people who want to come to UK and work(using option B) to have a better life.

Rexram will not be in trouble, and UKBA wouldn't take one person's word anyway.

If it is the case that a someone isn't paid by their Tier 2 sponsor and is charged fees when this is actually illegal then stopping this is actually doing potential migrant a favour I think. Just because people may benefit financially from crime doesn't make the crime OK.

merston · Post by **merston** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:53 pm

also a company Sybersolve Solutions are offering sponsorship for IT guys. I found out they have around 500 contractors all on work permits so it must be right. These companies all work the same way and for me it is a good option if I want a sponsored visa and a job, but who to go with?? Anyone worked with Sybersolve or associated company (they also have Lester Associates and some other company in their group).

Rexram · Post by **Rexram** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:31 pm

Thank you for your advise.

I will leave it for home office to decide. Yes I have emails to prove what they do is WRONG.

they 'arrange' a COS for you with NO job offer. Then tell you to find job yourself in 3months if you haven't then they cancel COS and tell you to return to home country.

THIS IS NOT RIGHT!

favour · Post by **favour** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:53 am

Some people are desperate and will jump at an opportunity like that, having 3 months grace period to look for a job, instead of been turned down by recruiters because they dont have a working visa.

The Station Agent · Post by **The Station Agent** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:17 pm

Whatever way you slice it this is against the way the system is intended to run. Sooner or later it may be closed down. If the CoS is issued without a genuine job that the meets the criteria of the PBS then it should be classed as not meeting the rules and should, in due course, lead to the licence being revoked if the UKBA can prove it was against the rules.

Rexram · Post by **Rexram** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:22 pm

They may be A rated sponsor, but they still issue COS without you having a job. That is not right.

UKCTS007 · Post by **UKCTS007** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:39 pm

Spam 8 might be up front about the nature of the relationship, however, that does not mean they are abiding by the immigration rules. Tier 2 General is job specific and a CoS can only be assigned where there is a genuine job vacancy at the sponsoring company. To sponsor somebody and have them sit on the bench for up to 3 months without paying the employee the salary as detailed on the CoS, means there was no job vacancy there in the first place, and therefore the sponsor company (spam) has assigned the CoS under false pretenses.

mnnouman · Post by **mnnouman** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:43 am

Just one repeated question to the advocates of Spam.

It is legal for any company to issue CoS without giving any job offer ? Is it legal to issue CoS to find a job ?

If the answer is No, then this company is doing an illegal business, from the umbrella services viewpoint this may not be an scam but for the sponsorship standpoint this definitely is.

Me and many other contributors of this post have experienced the CoS offers without job from Spam and stands enough of a proof I guess.

Regards

Alyx · Post by **Alyx** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:07 pm

Hi All, Please stay away from any company that offers you a tier 2 visa sponsorship without the offer of a job. Companies like Spam 8 Ltd and their sister company workpermitconsultants.com are handing out CoS illegally as they do not actually look for or give you a job. They will not pay you and they will cancel your visa after 3 months if you do not secure your own contract. This is almost impossible to do as recruitment agencies and companies are aware that they are unable to hire non eu people on a tier 2 general visa. Not only that they require you to secure a contract paying no less than £220 per day which means they get a bigger cut. The minimum salary a tier 2 general visa holder can earn is approx. £20 600 per annum and not the ridiculous amount they require you to get. All of the above makes it almost impossible to get work. So be aware people, I am currently in that situation and I would hate to see others fall into the same trap as I have.

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