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Post by Janey142 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:56 pm

Hiya

We are applying for my fiance to get ILR using form FLR(O)

He came to the UK with his family in 2005 as a child but has never had any documentation as his mother said they were just coming on holiday, ended up staying and never registered him here.

Years later we are applying under human rights based on the fact he went to school here, is engaged and living with me, nothing to do with his family at all.

Do you think we could use the premium service?

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Re: Premium Service

Post by Amber » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:47 pm

Janey142 wrote:Hiya

We are applying for my fiance to get ILR using form FLR(O)

He came to the UK with his family in 2005 as a child but has never had any documentation as his mother said they were just coming on holiday, ended up staying and never registered him here.

Years later we are applying under human rights based on the fact he went to school here, is engaged and living with me, nothing to do with his family at all.

Do you think we could use the premium service?
You do not apply for settlement (ILR) with form flr(o).

Are you applying now under leave to remain based on family life? If so, have you consulted a OISC regulated advisor? You do know that the family life route is now 10 years until settlement? Do you have children?
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Re: Premium Service

Post by Janey142 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:53 pm

D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:Hiya

We are applying for my fiance to get ILR using form FLR(O)

He came to the UK with his family in 2005 as a child but has never had any documentation as his mother said they were just coming on holiday, ended up staying and never registered him here.

Years later we are applying under human rights based on the fact he went to school here, is engaged and living with me, nothing to do with his family at all.

Do you think we could use the premium service?
You do not apply for settlement (ILR) with form flr(o).

Are you applying now under leave to remain based on family life? If so, have you consulted a OISC regulated advisor? You do know that the family life route is now 10 years until settlement? Based on what you have stated the family life issue is weak if there are no children! Have you considered a spouse visa?

thanks for replying

we have contacted a OISC regulated advisor. his situation fits no other application hence flr o. no spouse visa or anything fits as he is under subject to immigration control currently and is living here with restrictions. we have been advised flr o by our lawyer. it is not based on family but his whole situation such as the fact he has grown up here went to school here and has no contact with any family in south africa and all his connections here on the uk he has built in 8 years.

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Re: Premium Service

Post by Amber » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:18 pm

Janey142 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:Hiya

We are applying for my fiance to get ILR using form FLR(O)

He came to the UK with his family in 2005 as a child but has never had any documentation as his mother said they were just coming on holiday, ended up staying and never registered him here.

Years later we are applying under human rights based on the fact he went to school here, is engaged and living with me, nothing to do with his family at all.

Do you think we could use the premium service?
You do not apply for settlement (ILR) with form flr(o).

Are you applying now under leave to remain based on family life? If so, have you consulted a OISC regulated advisor? You do know that the family life route is now 10 years until settlement? Based on what you have stated the family life issue is weak if there are no children! Have you considered a spouse visa?

thanks for replying

we have contacted a OISC regulated advisor. his situation fits no other application hence flr o. no spouse visa or anything fits as he is under subject to immigration control currently and is living here with restrictions. we have been advised flr o by our lawyer. it is not based on family but his whole situation such as the fact he has grown up here went to school here and has no contact with any family in south africa and all his connections here on the uk he has built in 8 years.
What is his current immigration status? Leave to remain as.....? If there are particularly compelling circumstances then it is possible to be granted leave to remain outside the rules, for example, where the application fall outside the Immigration Rules, or to grant asylum or Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave.... The reasons should be particularly compelling in circumstance. Whatever you decide to apply under flr(o) - the o being other, you need to write a good letter which details the compelling reasons why the applicant should be granted leave to remain here. How old is the applicant?

However, before you apply for limited leave to remain (flr) you should perhaps consider indefinite leave to remain as there may be a very small (so must be very compelling) number of instances where it is considered appropriate to grant indefinite LOTR because the particular compelling circumstances of the individual case are such that it is almost certain that there will be no change in circumstances within five years. Did your advisor not mention this? It is more likely that a grant of flr would be more common and perhaps easier but ILOTR should be considered. Though, I suppose he could reconnect with his family in 5 years unless there was some abuse or some other reason why it would be an almost certainty that he would not.
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Re: Premium Service

Post by Janey142 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:09 pm

D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:Hiya

We are applying for my fiance to get ILR using form FLR(O)

He came to the UK with his family in 2005 as a child but has never had any documentation as his mother said they were just coming on holiday, ended up staying and never registered him here.

Years later we are applying under human rights based on the fact he went to school here, is engaged and living with me, nothing to do with his family at all.

Do you think we could use the premium service?
You do not apply for settlement (ILR) with form flr(o).

Are you applying now under leave to remain based on family life? If so, have you consulted a OISC regulated advisor? You do know that the family life route is now 10 years until settlement? Based on what you have stated the family life issue is weak if there are no children! Have you considered a spouse visa?

thanks for replying

we have contacted a OISC regulated advisor. his situation fits no other application hence flr o. no spouse visa or anything fits as he is under subject to immigration control currently and is living here with restrictions. we have been advised flr o by our lawyer. it is not based on family but his whole situation such as the fact he has grown up here went to school here and has no contact with any family in south africa and all his connections here on the uk he has built in 8 years.
What is his current immigration status? Leave to remain as.....? If there are particularly compelling circumstances then it is possible to be granted leave to remain outside the rules, for example, where the application fall outside the Immigration Rules, or to grant asylum or Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave.... The reasons should be particularly compelling in circumstance. Whatever you decide to apply under flr(o) - the o being other, you need to write a good letter which details the compelling reasons why the applicant should be granted leave to remain here. How old is the applicant?

However, before you apply for limited leave to remain (flr) you should perhaps consider indefinite leave to remain as there may be a very small (so must be very compelling) number of instances where it is considered appropriate to grant indefinite LOTR because the particular compelling circumstances of the individual case are such that it is almost certain that there will be no change in circumstances within five years. Did your advisor not mention this? It is more likely that a grant of flr would be more common and perhaps easier but ILOTR should be considered. Though, I suppose he could reconnect with his family in 5 years unless there was some abuse or some other reason why it would be an almost certainty that he would not.

Yes we re applying for discretionary leave leave to remain outside the rules. The exception to which we have strong case according to our advisor is because he has no status here he has never had one. UKBA have no record of his existence. his mother literally brought him here as a child and lied and said he was here legally until he found he found he couldn't get a passport and was told he is not in the UK system. he is 22 now. we have been advised flr is best initially to apply for so he can get some sort of leave to remain so he can work and we can get married.

my question is not really what we are applying for but is it suitable to apply using premium service? we have been trying for years to get this sorted using wrong applications based on incorrect info from his mother because she didn't admit she brought him here on false pretence without paperwork. i have been supporting him for years and we need it sorted asap.

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Re: Premium Service

Post by Amber » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:42 pm

Janey142 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
You do not apply for settlement (ILR) with form flr(o).

Are you applying now under leave to remain based on family life? If so, have you consulted a OISC regulated advisor? You do know that the family life route is now 10 years until settlement? Based on what you have stated the family life issue is weak if there are no children! Have you considered a spouse visa?

thanks for replying

we have contacted a OISC regulated advisor. his situation fits no other application hence flr o. no spouse visa or anything fits as he is under subject to immigration control currently and is living here with restrictions. we have been advised flr o by our lawyer. it is not based on family but his whole situation such as the fact he has grown up here went to school here and has no contact with any family in south africa and all his connections here on the uk he has built in 8 years.
What is his current immigration status? Leave to remain as.....? If there are particularly compelling circumstances then it is possible to be granted leave to remain outside the rules, for example, where the application fall outside the Immigration Rules, or to grant asylum or Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave.... The reasons should be particularly compelling in circumstance. Whatever you decide to apply under flr(o) - the o being other, you need to write a good letter which details the compelling reasons why the applicant should be granted leave to remain here. How old is the applicant?

However, before you apply for limited leave to remain (flr) you should perhaps consider indefinite leave to remain as there may be a very small (so must be very compelling) number of instances where it is considered appropriate to grant indefinite LOTR because the particular compelling circumstances of the individual case are such that it is almost certain that there will be no change in circumstances within five years. Did your advisor not mention this? It is more likely that a grant of flr would be more common and perhaps easier but ILOTR should be considered. Though, I suppose he could reconnect with his family in 5 years unless there was some abuse or some other reason why it would be an almost certainty that he would not.

Yes we re applying for discretionary leave leave to remain outside the rules. The exception to which we have strong case according to our advisor is because he has no status here he has never had one. UKBA have no record of his existence. his mother literally brought him here as a child and lied and said he was here legally until he found he found he couldn't get a passport and was told he is not in the UK system. he is 22 now. we have been advised flr is best initially to apply for so he can get some sort of leave to remain so he can work and we can get married.

my question is not really what we are applying for but is it suitable to apply using premium service? we have been trying for years to get this sorted using wrong applications based on incorrect info from his mother because she didn't admit she brought him here on false pretence without paperwork. i have been supporting him for years and we need it sorted asap.
Unfortunately not you'll have to apply by post as a senior caseworker will be reviewing the information and a decision will likely take some time.
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Re: Premium Service

Post by Janey142 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:10 pm

D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:

thanks for replying

we have contacted a OISC regulated advisor. his situation fits no other application hence flr o. no spouse visa or anything fits as he is under subject to immigration control currently and is living here with restrictions. we have been advised flr o by our lawyer. it is not based on family but his whole situation such as the fact he has grown up here went to school here and has no contact with any family in south africa and all his connections here on the uk he has built in 8 years.
What is his current immigration status? Leave to remain as.....? If there are particularly compelling circumstances then it is possible to be granted leave to remain outside the rules, for example, where the application fall outside the Immigration Rules, or to grant asylum or Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave.... The reasons should be particularly compelling in circumstance. Whatever you decide to apply under flr(o) - the o being other, you need to write a good letter which details the compelling reasons why the applicant should be granted leave to remain here. How old is the applicant?

However, before you apply for limited leave to remain (flr) you should perhaps consider indefinite leave to remain as there may be a very small (so must be very compelling) number of instances where it is considered appropriate to grant indefinite LOTR because the particular compelling circumstances of the individual case are such that it is almost certain that there will be no change in circumstances within five years. Did your advisor not mention this? It is more likely that a grant of flr would be more common and perhaps easier but ILOTR should be considered. Though, I suppose he could reconnect with his family in 5 years unless there was some abuse or some other reason why it would be an almost certainty that he would not.

Yes we re applying for discretionary leave leave to remain outside the rules. The exception to which we have strong case according to our advisor is because he has no status here he has never had one. UKBA have no record of his existence. his mother literally brought him here as a child and lied and said he was here legally until he found he found he couldn't get a passport and was told he is not in the UK system. he is 22 now. we have been advised flr is best initially to apply for so he can get some sort of leave to remain so he can work and we can get married.

my question is not really what we are applying for but is it suitable to apply using premium service? we have been trying for years to get this sorted using wrong applications based on incorrect info from his mother because she didn't admit she brought him here on false pretence without paperwork. i have been supporting him for years and we need it sorted asap.
Unfortunately not you'll have to apply by post as a senior caseworker will be reviewing the information and a decision will likely take some time.
As far as I was aware any form on flr o can be done premium, even more complicated cases done "as soon as possible" as they cannot be done on the day ?

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Re: Premium Service

Post by onabanjo » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:41 am

Janey142 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
Janey142 wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
What is his current immigration status? Leave to remain as.....? If there are particularly compelling circumstances then it is possible to be granted leave to remain outside the rules, for example, where the application fall outside the Immigration Rules, or to grant asylum or Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave.... The reasons should be particularly compelling in circumstance. Whatever you decide to apply under flr(o) - the o being other, you need to write a good letter which details the compelling reasons why the applicant should be granted leave to remain here. How old is the applicant?

However, before you apply for limited leave to remain (flr) you should perhaps consider indefinite leave to remain as there may be a very small (so must be very compelling) number of instances where it is considered appropriate to grant indefinite LOTR because the particular compelling circumstances of the individual case are such that it is almost certain that there will be no change in circumstances within five years. Did your advisor not mention this? It is more likely that a grant of flr would be more common and perhaps easier but ILOTR should be considered. Though, I suppose he could reconnect with his family in 5 years unless there was some abuse or some other reason why it would be an almost certainty that he would not.

Yes we re applying for discretionary leave leave to remain outside the rules. The exception to which we have strong case according to our advisor is because he has no status here he has never had one. UKBA have no record of his existence. his mother literally brought him here as a child and lied and said he was here legally until he found he found he couldn't get a passport and was told he is not in the UK system. he is 22 now. we have been advised flr is best initially to apply for so he can get some sort of leave to remain so he can work and we can get married.

my question is not really what we are applying for but is it suitable to apply using premium service? we have been trying for years to get this sorted using wrong applications based on incorrect info from his mother because she didn't admit she brought him here on false pretence without paperwork. i have been supporting him for years and we need it sorted asap.
Unfortunately not you'll have to apply by post as a senior caseworker will be reviewing the information and a decision will likely take some time.
As far as I was aware any form on flr o can be done premium, even more complicated cases done "as soon as possible" as they cannot be done on the day ?
I believe you wanted to be guided and that was the reason for your post initially but you you want or intend to achieve, it is needless coming to this forum for gudance
Disclaimer: I am no immigration lawyer nor am I OISC qualified. Don't treat my advice as a substitute for legal opinion.

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Post by Amber » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:20 am

To be honest I didn't quite understand the last 2 posts. However, this link http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/about ... oservices/ verifies what I stated.
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