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Effect of HMRC Penalties on BC

Post by quries77 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:33 am

Dear All,

I have received Penalty Notice from HMRC as I have not submitted my self assessment form for year 2012,actually I am Director of company and I have never drawn any income from that company, I have phoned HMRC in Feb 2013 and they said I have to register for Self Assessment scheme but there will be no Penalty because I was not register in this scheme and I have not received the SA forms etc, but now I have received this penalty.

I will contact them about this penalty but could anyone please advise what are the effects of this HMRC penatlies on British Citizenship application?
and also do I need to mention this penalty in my BC application?

Other than this penalty notice I have never received any penalty in the UK.

I will wait for your kind reply and thanks in advance for the help.

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Re: Effect of HMRC Penalties on BC

Post by Amber » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:22 am

quries77 wrote:Dear All,

I have received Penalty Notice from HMRC as I have not submitted my self assessment form for year 2012,actually I am Director of company and I have never drawn any income from that company, I have phoned HMRC in Feb 2013 and they said I have to register for Self Assessment scheme but there will be no Penalty because I was not register in this scheme and I have not received the SA forms etc, but now I have received this penalty.

I will contact them about this penalty but could anyone please advise what are the effects of this HMRC penatlies on British Citizenship application?
and also do I need to mention this penalty in my BC application?

Other than this penalty notice I have never received any penalty in the UK.

I will wait for your kind reply and thanks in advance for the help.

Regards,
Please see and read British Citizenship – Good Character Requirement FAQs Question 22 should be helpful.
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Post by quries77 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:13 am

Dear Amber,

Thanks for your reply, I have read Q22 again, in my case I have no income from my Limited company as Director, so I dont have to pay tax on self assessment scheme as I am employee of other company and pay tax on PAYE on monthly Payslip.

HMRC issued me penalty notice because I have not filed yearly return although I dont owe HMRC anything, my query is following,

"Is my British Citizenship get affected if i have receive the Penalty notice from HMRC? and do I have to mention this penalty notice in BC application?"

Thanks a lot for your help and support.

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Post by Amber » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:44 am

quries77 wrote:Dear Amber,

Thanks for your reply, I have read Q22 again, in my case I have no income from my Limited company as Director, so I dont have to pay tax on self assessment scheme as I am employee of other company and pay tax on PAYE on monthly Payslip.

HMRC issued me penalty notice because I have not filed yearly return although I dont owe HMRC anything, my query is following,

"Is my British Citizenship get affected if i have receive the Penalty notice from HMRC? and do I have to mention this penalty notice in BC application?"

Thanks a lot for your help and support.

Regards,
If you dispute the penalty you should appeal if you have no tax liability then you can't be evading paying tax and thus should have no affect.
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Post by quries77 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:16 pm

Dear Amber,

Thanks for your quick reply, one last thing,Do I need to mention this Penalty notice in my application for BC, if I dont mention it, does it not come under "not showing full details".
Also once I appeal to HMRC the result or outcome of that appeal will not come because by that time I have to apply for BC, please advise how I should do the application then.

Thanks once again for your help

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Post by Amber » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:24 pm

quries77 wrote:Dear Amber,

Thanks for your quick reply, one last thing,Do I need to mention this Penalty notice in my application for BC, if I dont mention it, does it not come under "not showing full details".
Also once I appeal to HMRC the result or outcome of that appeal will not come because by that time I have to apply for BC, please advise how I should do the application then.

Thanks once again for your help

regards,
You can declare it, the fact that you're appealing should be mentioned and that should allow a decision to be made, I see no reason why it wouldn't be a favourable one.
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Re: Effect of HMRC Penalties on BC

Post by Ayyubi72 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:45 pm

quries77 wrote:Dear All,

I have received Penalty Notice from HMRC as I have not submitted my self assessment form for year 2012,actually I am Director of company and I have never drawn any income from that company, I have phoned HMRC in Feb 2013 and they said I have to register for Self Assessment scheme but there will be no Penalty because I was not register in this scheme and I have not received the SA forms etc, but now I have received this penalty.

I will contact them about this penalty but could anyone please advise what are the effects of this HMRC penatlies on British Citizenship application?
and also do I need to mention this penalty in my BC application?

Other than this penalty notice I have never received any penalty in the UK.

I will wait for your kind reply and thanks in advance for the help.

Regards,
If you are director of a company, or you are self employed, or if you are required to file self assessment for any other reason, then you must file the self-assessment by a certain deadline. If you do not file by a certain deadline, you must pay the penalty. You draw any salary or not, or company makes a profit or not is immaterial. You must file self assessment, even if it shows everything as zero.

If you are director of a ltd company, then you do have to file for self assessment. If you are the director of a ltd company and you were somehow "not registered" as you put it, for self assessment, then celebrate, because you have become the first person in UK who is a ltd company director and not registered for self assessment. :wink:

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