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relevance of WRS to students?

Post by scharla » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:29 pm

Hey, I am an A8 national considering applying for PR and eventually citizenship in the UK. I ahve been living in the UK for about 7 years, 5 of these as a full time student and the other two since then spent working (with a short gap).

My main problem is that I never registered for the WRS as it was never really required from me and by the time I found out I should be, in fact, registered, they have abolished the scheme. As I understand it, this precludes me from applying for PR as a worker, despite having worked PT most of my time here.

Taking this into consideration, I thought about applying as a EEA student (and then worker after the WRS ended). However, the rules state that in order to do this I would have to prove I had medical insurance and independent means of supporting myself throughout this time. I only had private medical insurance for a period of time (tho I was covered by the state medical system back home).

More imporantly, however, most of my living expenses were covered by working PT, which brings me back to the WRS. While as an EEU national studying in Scotland I didn't pay tuition fees and I got some support from my family, this would be hard to prove and not enough to cover living costs.

Do you think not being registered under WRS would affect my student application? (I think it's inevitable that lack of registration would come up)

Even if I get PR, could it then impact on the citizenship application? (they say breach of immigration rules at any point can lead to a refusal?) :?:

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Post by Jambo » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:41 pm

If you can produce a EHIC issued by your home country or a letter confirming your cover, that would satisfy the CSI requirement.

As a student you don't need to provide detailed proof of how you have maintained yourself. A signed declaration by yourself stating you have not taken any benefits or become a burden on the state is enough. You don't need to back up the statement.

If you have exercised treaty rights for 5 years (as a student), you have obtained PR status and didn't require to register with WRS afterwards.

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Post by Obie » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:43 am

Provided you were a student, you are exempted from registering under the worker registration scheme, if your primary activity was studying, and working was only done part time.

You are required CSI, I believe the declaration the previous poster mentioned only applies to making a prospective endeavour. It does not apply when proving retrospective activities.

I agree, that it may well be the case, that given your circumstances, you have secured a PR.
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Post by scharla » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:11 am

Thank you both for sucha swift reply. From what you are saying it seems that my case is a lot less complicated than I originally thought. :)
Jambo wrote: If you have exercised treaty rights for 5 years (as a student), you have obtained PR status and didn't require to register with WRS afterwards.
If I understand what you are saying correctly then PR is something that you acquire automatically after 5 years of excercising your Treaty rights and an application is merely an acknowledgement of this status. Is this the correct interpretation? If this is the case, does this mean that I could skip applying for PR and just apply for citizenship straight away if that is what I am after?

One thing I just realised, however - since the school year runs from September to June/July, I was not technically a student for the duration of the five years, having graduated in early July 2011. I then registered as a job-seeker and did in fact receive JSA until September 2011 when I found full time employment (and have been employed FT since) . By this time the WRS had been abolished for good. Do you know what effect, if any, this would have on my application?
Obie wrote:You are required CSI, I believe the declaration the previous poster mentioned only applies to making a prospective endeavour. It does not apply when proving retrospective activities.
Are you aying that producing the EHIC card (which I do have somewhere) would not be enough to satisfy the CSI requirement?

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Post by Jambo » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:35 am

Your understanding of the rules is correct.

As PR Confrimation is optional, you can apply for naturalisation directly. The risk is that they don't agree you have PR and you lose the £850 application fee. One thing you can do is to apply for PR Confrimation (EEA3) based on your students years only and see if it is granted. Even if granted, this will not save you from submitting this evidence again when applying for naturalisation (this is because the PR Card only confirm PR on date of issue even if the evidence provided is covering 5 years in the past). But if this is granted, you know your documents are good to support your naturalisation application (it is also worth explaining that in a cover letter as it will probably smooth the checks if they can see it was done already).

See also Q1 & Q5 in Citizenship FAQs - Common Questions - Read before posting.

What Obie referred to is my statement about a signed declaration regarding funds and not CSI. Although legally not required, the HO still ask for it in the form, so I suggest you add it to avoid delays.

I don't see two months of job seeking after graduation to cause an issue.

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