Applying for PR (EEA3)

[DGTLJNK]

Hi everyone , I came to UK in 2008 along with my mom to join my father who lived there since 2006 ( I actually came to UK in 2006 but won't be able to prove it as I didnt work or go to school for 2 years ) . Since september 2008 until now , I have been in a full time education . Last year in november I got married and since then I went to live with my wife and moved out to manchester where I started my uni degree (before I lived with my parents for these past 4 years )

In September 2013 it will be more than 5 years that I have lived in UK and exercised treaty rights as a student, I wonder what documents shall I provide in order to qualify for permanent residency. I found on the forum that medical insurance covering those 5 years is necessary to get the PR , is it true? I have EHIC card issued in UK thats valid until 2014 and I have recently bought medical insurance in order to get EEA2 RC for my wife. Would that be good enough ?

Do you think it would be easier if I asked my father to apply for it and add me on his application as a family member, as he has continuously worked in UK since 2006 ?

[sheraz7]

If in past you had no CSI then for your PR you can take help from the treaty rights activities of your qualified EEA family members. But for your non-EU national partner your activities will be imperative which in your case you are a student and bought CSI for EEA2 RC application.

[DGTLJNK]

If in past you had no CSI then for your PR you can take help from the treaty rights activities of your qualified EEA family members.

Thanks for the answer, so when applying for EEA3 on my fathers application, what documents do we need to send to grant me a PR ? Do i need to prove that I lived here for 5 years, studied or did anything during the period of time that my father has worked or it doesn't matter what I did , as long as I lived in UK and he exercised the treaty rights ?


Will the change of my marital status influence our EEA3 application, as theoretically I'm no longer dependent as I have my own family..yet I'm still member of his family

But for your non-EU national partner your activities will be imperative which in your case you are a student and bought CSI for EEA2 RC application.

I know , it's a completely different story. But that's why I want to get PR so in a future I dont have to prove anything from the past 5 years in order to get my wife a PR.

[sheraz7]

EEA3 form documents section itself mention the documents and since you had no CSI in past then better to show the evidences relating to worker (treaty rights) of your EEA family member for your PR.
Yes once you get PR then your non-EU partner won't need your treaty rights evidences rather just spend 5 years for PR.

[DGTLJNK]

EEA3 form documents section itself mention the documents and since you had no CSI in past then better to show the evidences relating to worker (treaty rights) of your EEA family member for your PR.
Yes once you get PR then your non-EU partner won't need your treaty rights evidences rather just spend 5 years for PR.

I think you didn't get me, or what's more possible I don't understand how it all works.. I wanted to use my fathers details as a main applicant (he's not bothered about having PR but if it will help me to obtain one he obviously would do it ) and put myself as a family member. In this case , do I need to provide any evidence of me living in uk, studying here or it doesn't matter because my father has exercised treaty rights for over 5 years and as long as I provide the proof that I'm his son I will be granted a PR on this ground.


I'm also a bit confused with this EEA3 application form, what's the difference between

SECTION 2 – FAMILY MEMBERS INCLUDED IN YOUR APPLICATION

and

SECTION 3 – YOUR EEA NATIONAL FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS EXERCISING
TREATY RIGHTS

Could someone please explain it to me ?

[sheraz7]

As mentioned earlier that in past you had no CSI therefore you were not exercising treaty by student. That is why you need to show only your dependency on your EEA national (father) work activities.
And yes for proving residence of 5 years you can attach bank statement/bills/ or even school certificates etc.
section 2 is only asking about family member without their treaty rights. And section 3 ask for the treaty rights of qualified person which is your father.

[DGTLJNK]

As mentioned earlier that in past you had no CSI therefore you were not exercising treaty by student. That is why you need to show only your dependency on your EEA national (father) work activities.
And yes for proving residence of 5 years you can attach bank statement/bills/ or even school certificates etc.
section 2 is only asking about family member without their treaty rights. And section 3 ask for the treaty rights of qualified person which is your father.

Thanks a lot for taking your time to help me out with my enquires, Sheraz7. Just to clarify , I can apply for a PR just for myself , but instead of proving that I exercised the treaty rights I have to send my fathers p60 from the past 5 years and some documents proving that I have lived here since 5 years, or with myself as a family member on my fathers application using the same documents as a proof, right ? How do i prove the dependency if I'm married from the end of 2012 and since then lived away from home?

[sheraz7]

Yes correct.
Usually birth certificate can prove relation. Different address does not matter as long as at least 6 months residence in a year is proved. You can apply 1st your PR and then EEA2 RC later which is just a mere confirmation to make things easier.

[DGTLJNK]

Usually birth certificate can prove relation. Different address does not matter as long as at least 6 months residence in a year is proved. You can apply 1st your PR and then EEA2 RC later which is just a mere confirmation to make things easier.

Sweet ! Thanks again for your help ,have a nice weekend and make the most out of this lovely weather

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

If you were over 21 at any point in your first five years, you will need to show that you were dependent on your father and that your father exercised treaty rights.

[DGTLJNK]

If you were over 21 at any point in your first five years, you will need to show that you were dependent on your father and that your father exercised treaty rights.

I found this on some website :

"Dependent children over 21 (including stepchildren and grandchildren) and dependent relatives in the ascending
line (for example, parents, grandparents and parents-in-law) are also covered. Dependence need not be financial,
but it must be material, meaning that it contributes to the basic necessities of life (e.g., food, clothing or shelter)."


I'm 23 so how do i show my dependency ? It's ipossible to prove it as obviously I lived with my parents till september 2012 , then i moved out for Uni and got married in november 2012.. Regardless of the place I lived in, my father, he has never ever transfered any money into my account as I always preferred cash if I needed some..Now I only live an hour drive from a home place so I pop up there every second weekend with a visit.. He provided food and money for clothing but how the hell i can prove it I didnt know i have to keep few years old Tesco or Morissons bills showing that on 4th of september 2008 my father bought me a blueberry muffins and crisps.. This is just ridiculous. Is the birth certificate not enough? Has anybody got any advice on how i can prove it ?