Moving form N.Ireland to Ireland - Surinder Singh

[Linz]

Hello everyone, I am aware that this is by no means a new topic and I apologise for perhaps going over things that have been gone over many times but its new for me and I need to clarify!
I am 27 years old, from Northern Ireland. I have recently become engaged to my indian fiancé. We would like to get married in the uk (we are thinking mid 2014) and eventually live in the uk.
1. We are going to apply for a uk visit to marriage visa. Does he need to return to India after the wedding or can we directly move to Ireland while he is on the uk marriage visa and transfer it to a living with spouse in Ireland visa by visiting the Irish embassy in Dublin? If not - does he need a visa to come to Ireland from India? I've seen posts on this and other websites where people turn up at airports with their passport and marriage certificate and get a stamp to grant entry for 3 months.
2. Can I relocate my self employed business from Northern Ireland or would it be more convenient to get a basic job in Ireland?
3. Can we safely move back and forwards over the border during this time?

Thank you so much in advance for any advice or experiences. We really appreciate any help on this issue.

Lindsey

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

Hello everyone, I am aware that this is by no means a new topic and I apologise for perhaps going over things that have been gone over many times but its new for me and I need to clarify!
I am 27 years old, from Northern Ireland. I have recently become engaged to my indian fiancé. We would like to get married in the uk (we are thinking mid 2014) and eventually live in the uk.
1. We are going to apply for a uk visit to marriage visa. Does he need to return to India after the wedding or can we directly move to Ireland while he is on the uk marriage visa and transfer it to a living with spouse in Ireland visa by visiting the Irish embassy in Dublin? If not - does he need a visa to come to Ireland from India? I've seen posts on this and other websites where people turn up at airports with their passport and marriage certificate and get a stamp to grant entry for 3 months.
2. Can I relocate my self employed business from Northern Ireland or would it be more convenient to get a basic job in Ireland?
3. Can we safely move back and forwards over the border during this time?

Thank you so much in advance for any advice or experiences. We really appreciate any help on this issue.

Lindsey

I toyed with moving this to the Ireland section, but since return to the UK is your goal, it is probably better where it is.

1. No need to return to India. Can move directly to Ireland and apply for a residence card there. Alternatively, apply for an Irish visa from the UK (may require trip to London). The former would be easier.
2. You don't have to move your business, you could provide services from Ireland. The important point is that you reside there together.
3. In theory, yes. The UK will expect spouse to be documented, but once you exercise treaty rights in Ireland, you will be considered to be just like other EU citizens as far as the UK is concerned. Best to travel together.

[Linz]

Thank you very much for your reply. It's a very confusing time and definitely need to make sure all areas are covered!
To get the initial marriage visa we have to prove that my husband will return to India within 6 months as that's the validity of the marriage visa. What do we do here? Do we book a return flight on visa application to the uk as if he were going to return home and then cancel it after we "decide" to relocate to Ireland instead? Is this a simple case of after finding a flat in eg. dublin, making a trip to the Irish embassy in Dublin and saying that I am a uk citizen exercising my rights to movement & my husband is looking to join me in Ireland?
It really seems too good to be true and a lifeline we never knew existed until now - I can't help thinking something will go wrong so that's why all the questions
Thanks again for your help, it's much appreciated!

[Linz]

Hi, another question has come to mind.
As I live in Northern Ireland there is no border control to enter from Ireland, we just drive in. If we were to fly in can hubby go through immigration at Belfast international airport or do we have to go to London or is this an irrelevant step - can we just drive freely over the border (with our EEA), find us both jobs in Northern Ireland and then apply for EEA2?
Thank you

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

To get the initial marriage visa we have to prove that my husband will return to India within 6 months as that's the validity of the marriage visa.

For your fiancee visa questions, best to ask in the relevant part of the forum. I understand that one could extent permission to stay in the UK if one so wished to take that up. People in that situation may not require a return flight.

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

Hi, another question has come to mind.
As I live in Northern Ireland there is no border control to enter from Ireland, we just drive in. If we were to fly in can hubby go through immigration at Belfast international airport or do we have to go to London or is this an irrelevant step - can we just drive freely over the border (with our EEA), find us both jobs in Northern Ireland and then apply for EEA2?
Thank you

You can simply cross the border. A British citizen is entitled to exercise their right of freedom of movement. They are entitled to have their family members with them.

[sky2003]

Good afternoon everyone ,i am from Northern Ireland and planning on moving to Ireland. i am married to my Tunisian husband for 2 years and have been living in Tunisia since our marriage with our 1 year old son, he have been granted family visitor visas to Northern Ireland but unfortunately i dont earn the amount required for settlement visa so we have decided to move to Ireland to be closer to my family and see how we get on there.
My question i am hoping someone could help me with, it states i have to work for a certain length of time in Ireland before we apply for EEA family permit to UK, I currently work for a company in Northern Ireland through an online system which allows to work from home, am i still able to continue to work like this when i am in Ireland? they deal with customers from both north and south Ireland and i would be paid to my bank in Ireland or would i need to get new work in Ireland.

Many thanks in advance for any advice given, I really appreciate any help given thank you