Spain Road traffic offence &applying for British Nationa

[ap007]

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[Derivaz]

Hi,

I'm planning to apply for British Nationality in October 2013 and I do meet all the requirements.

However, whilst reading the AN guide, I just remembered I was issued a on-the-spot fine for speeding in Spain earlier this year (Feb 2013).

Should I declare this in the Criminal conviction section?? (The guide states that criminal conviction must be declared whether in the UK or abroad and this includes road traffic offences)!!

If i declare it, Will this affect my application?

Any info on what to expect will be greatly appreciated...

Thanks,
AP

The way I interpret it is that you have to declare convictions, but a speeding ticket can be a fixed penalty notice if you don't get a court summon or a conviction if you get a court summon.

I don't think you have to declare FPNs, but if it's within the last 12 months, you might have to, because it affects the application (if you have more than 1); but the difference is that if it's a FPN it won't affect your application, if it's only 1, if it's a conviction, your application will be refused for 3 years....

I think that's the right interpretation, but not 100% sure...

[Derivaz]

It's not a good idea lie.

I think they consider it deception if you conceal information that would have resulted in a refusal; so if it's a conviction and he doesn't declare it, it will be deception, if it's a FPN and he has only one, maybe it's not deception; I'm not sure if FPNs have to be declared..

But anyway, do you think the HO are going to find out what he got a speeding ticket in spain?

[Amber]

An on the spot fine is not a conviction and thus, unless you've got points on your licence, it doesn't need declaring. But for piece of mind as its in the last 12 months, pop a brief statement in the extra information box.

[Derivaz]

An on the spot fine is not a conviction and thus, unless you've got points on your licence, it doesn't need declaring. But for piece of mind as its in the last 12 months, pop a brief statement in the extra information box.

It looks like I was right then 1) on the spot speeding fines are FPNs 2) we don't need to declare FPNs unless we got them in the last 12 months

[ap007]

Thanks for your comments everyone!

I'm still confused though whether a FPN for speeding in Spain is technically a "Criminal Conviction" or not!! The AN guide says a FPN does not form a part of person's crimal record as there is no admission of guilt! So, should I declare or not...?

It's not like I'm trying to hide it as I know it will be disregarded even if I declare it....

Is there any document in the UKBA website that says a FPN need not be declared?

Thanks!
Arvind

[Derivaz]

Thanks for your comments everyone!

I'm still confused though whether a FPN for speeding in Spain is technically a "Criminal Conviction" or not!! The AN guide says a FPN does not form a part of person's crimal record as there is no admission of guilt! So, should I declare or not...?

It's not like I'm trying to hide it as I know it will be disregarded even if I declare it....

Is there any document in the UKBA website that says a FPN need not be declared?

Thanks!
Arvind

I don't think you need to declare it, because it's not a conviction, but I think Amber meant, write a comment about it, in the additional comments sections explaining it, but I dont think it matters if you don't declare it; also i doubt they are going to check with the Spanish DVLA if you have any driving tickets.....