hi,
Interesting discussion. Note that the only relevant case law for EU family member -parents is:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 01:EN:HTML
2 useful paragraphs :
'37 In order to determine whether the relatives in the ascending line of the spouse of a Community national are dependent on the latter, the host Member State must assess whether, having regard to their financial and social conditions, they are not in a position to support themselves. The need for material support must exist in the State of origin of those relatives or the State whence they came at the time when they apply to join the Community national.
....With regard to Article 6 of Directive 73/148, the Court has held that, given the lack of precision as to the means of acceptable proof by which the person concerned can establish that he or she comes within one of the classes of persons referred to in Articles 1 and 4 of that directive, it must be concluded that evidence may be adduced by any appropriate means (see, inter alia, Case C‑363/89 Roux [1991] ECR I‑1273, paragraph 16, and Case C‑215/03 Oulane [2005] ECR I‑1215, paragraph 53).
THus while the is no loss in trying out the tax credit, it will not strengthen your case beyond the factual proof that your parents are residing with you and depend on you for basic needs and finances.
NOte: member states should not question why they became dependent on you. Just prove the facts, and unless they have evidence that you are not actually providing finances as you said, your parent should be considered dependent.
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[quote="Brigid from Ireland"]Hi Strongbow,
Yes, one of the issues for non-EU parents is that they must be dependent on the child, and this is difficult to show. So I think getting these tax credits from revenue help to show this.
Hi Alegalalien,
I do not think it should have any impact on naturalisation, as everyone is entitled to claim the relevant tax reliefs. It is welfare that is paid when you are unemployed that is the main issue with naturalisation (welfare paid when on maternity leave is not counted as a problem, neither is child benefit a problem).
Hi Jinkazama,
Full medical card - you must be below the relevant income limits, and you get free GP, free hospital, and medicine at a cost of 50cent per item (basically free medicine also, as the cost is so low). This is mostly for those whose income is so low that they qualify for means tested social welfare payments.
GP only card - you get free GP only and must pay for medicine, to the limit of 144/month/family for medicine. The income limits for this are more generous than for the medical card - it is for the working poor, and the cost of accommodation/travel to work is included as an expense when calculating if you are entitled to this card. A lot of people who qualify for this do not apply for it.
Drugs Payment Scheme - you pay the GP usually 50 euro/visit, and the max you pay for medicine is 144/euro/month per family. You should get this card for yourself, the wife, kids and your mum also, as it shows she is a dependent member of your family.
Hospital Care: You should bring evidence of your right to NHS care (if from UK) or a European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) available from all European countries including the UK with you when you travel to Ireland. This gives cover for hospital care on the same basis as an Irish citizen for a short period of time (maybe about three months) and by the time this period has passed you should have a job. Then you say if asked that you intend to stay permanently in Ireland (This is important - that you intend to stay on a permanent basis) and this means you have the same rights as an Irish person to hospital care. The right is basically that you can go on a waiting list for anything, and to care in an emergency. The cost of this is limited to 750 euro per year (75 euro per night for the first ten nights in hospital per year, everything else is free if you stay longer in hospital), so long as you have the EHIC card or are working with the intention of staying on a permanent basis.
Note that non-EU often do not have the above rights - it is a complex area, and this is why non-EU require health insurance, as they pay the full economic cost if they are in hospital for emergency or any other care (the economic cost is about two thousand euro per night, with no limit to the cost).
Note also that maternity care is free to all.
Note also that Ireland pays for VERY expensive drugs - there are people here who are getting medicine that costs fifty thousand euro per year for life, and they pay only 144 euro per month or get them free on the medical card. I think that some very expensive drugs (eg kalydeco for cystic fibrosis at a cost in excess of one hundred thousand per patient per year) are authorised in Ireland - you are talking several million over the lifetime of the patient, and the state pays for the drug.[/quote]
