ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

Urgent Help Needed for PBS Dependent

Family member & Ancestry immigration; don't post other immigration categories, please!
Marriage | Unmarried Partners | Fiancé | Ancestry

Moderators: Casa, John, ChetanOjha, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, Administrator

Locked
oxymoron981
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Urgent Help Needed for PBS Dependent

Post by oxymoron981 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:30 pm

Hi All

I am in the UK on Tier 1 General and am applying for my ILR in a few weeks time but my wife does not yet qualify for ILR.

She entered UK on PBS Dependent Visa before 9 July 2012 rules came into effect.

I have booked an appointment for her FLR(M) after 15 days of from ILR Premium application but when I see the PBS Policy guidance I find that she can apply as a PBS Dependent even if I am on ILR.

I am very much confused right now whether to make her application as PBS Dependent or FLR(M) after I qualify for ILR.

Is my wife not allowed to apply for FLR(M) but only PBS Dependent or can she apply either of them.

Since only a few weeks left I would request you if you could advise me on this.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:34 pm

When did you wife enter the UK?
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

oxymoron981
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Post by oxymoron981 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:35 pm

My Wife entered UK in March 2012 as a Tier 1 General Dependent

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:40 pm

When does her current leave expire?
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

oxymoron981
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Post by oxymoron981 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:42 pm

Her leave expires mid of Nov 2013

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:44 pm

Then apply by post before her leave expires for a PBS dep extension (assuming you are applying for SET(O) as a PBS applicant) then hopefully a decision is not made by March 2014 and you can vary the application to SET(O) and avoid paying more.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

oxymoron981
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Post by oxymoron981 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:48 pm

Hi Amber

Thanks for your reply. Can she apply for FLR(M) since I have already booked a premium appointment for it.

In case you think she is unable to apply for FLR (M) I would cancel the appointment.

I want to do a premium application since we plan to visit our parents soon.

Regards

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:50 pm

Yes, if she applies for FLR(M) [once you are settled] she may subsequently settle on SET(M). There is an A1 English requirement for FLR(M).
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

oxymoron981
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Post by oxymoron981 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:15 pm

Hi Amber

Thanks for your advise. I really appreciate

oxymoron981
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Post by oxymoron981 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:47 pm

Hi Amber

Sorry for my delayed post. I just need to ask a final question. If my wife applies for her FLR(M) would she need to wait for 5 years before she applies for ILR SET(M) or the old rules of 2 years would apply since she had previous leave as Tier 1 General Dependent.

And would applying for PBS Dependent would not lead to this issue.

Regards

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:17 am

Assuming you're a PBS applicant then your wife will have transitional protection for her PBS dep extension and ILR application(s):
Page 9 wrote:If an applicant was granted an initial period of leave to enter or remain as a PBS
dependant before 9 July 2012 but has not lived with their PBS partner for the
required 2 years in the United Kingdom at the date their partner is applying for
indefinite leave to remain then, provided their partner gained indefinite leave to
remain as a relevant points based system migrant, the applicant can apply for
further leave to remain under paragraph 319C (b) (iii) (1).

Provided they meet the remaining requirements of paragraph 319C they should
be granted a further period of leave 3 years under paragraph 319D (a) (ii).

Once they have completed the required 2 year period living in the United
Kingdom with their settled partner, who gained indefinite leave to remain as a
relevant points based system migrant, they can qualify for indefinite leave to
remain under paragraph 319E (b) (i), (c) (i), (d) (i).
I think to apply by post and vary as above it perhaps the most sensible option.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

oxymoron981
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Post by oxymoron981 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:40 am

Hi Amber

Thank you for your comments. I have been able to get a PEO date for my wife for PBS Dependent extension.

But in the documents section I do not find any mention of providing original passport and BRP of main applicant. DO I need to submit my original passport and BRP with my wife's dependent application or only photocopies of the same.

Regards

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:12 am

You should take original documents to a PEO.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

JShah
Newbie
Posts: 47
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:02 am

Post by JShah » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:57 pm

Hi Amber,
Thanks for ur valuable information. I got ILR(I was on Tier1 G), yesterday, my wife visa is due on 06th Dec 2013, I m bit confused which form to use, is it FLR(M) or PBS Dependent form,also plz f you can tell me how much she needs for maintenance and for how long.
I will highly appreciate ur response.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:40 pm

PBS extension form. When did you spouse enter the UK?
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

JShah
Newbie
Posts: 47
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:02 am

Post by JShah » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:53 pm

Thanks Amber for quick response,
First enter to UK on 19th july 2011
PBS Dependent extension: 06 Dec 2011

Thanks

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:12 pm

Entered the UK as a PBS dep in July 2011?
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

JShah
Newbie
Posts: 47
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:02 am

Post by JShah » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:19 pm

Thats right, she entered on PBS Dependent visa.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:20 pm

So why did she not apply for ILR with you?
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

JShah
Newbie
Posts: 47
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:02 am

Post by JShah » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:22 pm

She does not meet English language requirement(LIUK).

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:03 pm

She should apply for an extension by post before her current leave expires and then get the language requirements satisfied (B1 and LIUK) and then vary the application to SET(O) to avoid paying £000's unnecessarily.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

JShah
Newbie
Posts: 47
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:02 am

Post by JShah » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:18 pm

Hi amber, thanks for ur time, can u kindly make it bit clear to me, what do u mean by avoiding paying unnrcessary £000, how its possible.

Thaks

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:20 pm

Apply by post for a PBS dep extension before leave expires then get working on the Language requirements which should take no more than 6-8 weeks. By this time the in-time application should still be pending and then, once LIUK and B1 is satisfied, you can vary it to SET(O) by just paying the fee difference as opposed to the cost of a PBS extension and SET(O).
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

JShah
Newbie
Posts: 47
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:02 am

Post by JShah » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:27 pm

Thanks alot Amber, I trust whatever you have said bcz I have done my ILR without solicitor by following ur advice,
is there any reference to the rule to the above solution you have advice to me

Thanks

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:07 pm

See page 32 of the Guidance.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

Locked