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MN1 tricky questions plz help

Post by polandcalling » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:23 am

Hi gurus I am trying to complete the MN1 form for my child based on Section 1 (3) before 24th October as my wife (non eea) is also applying for naturalisation and we want to avoid the Koll requirement. But I got stuck with the following questions:

Q. 1,3 Say if and when the child was given indefinite leave to enter/remain in the UK. If the child’s parent is an EEA or Swiss national or a family member of an EEA or Swiss national please ensure that they qualify for permanent residence
My child was born in February 2009 in uk and I (eea national) was not a Permanent Residence then, I got the PR card in 2011 and my wife (non eea) was on EEA 2 Residence Card then. However I have now naturalised as a BC. My child has a Polish passport so should I leave this question blank?

Q 1,27 Date father became settled in the UK (e.g granted indefinite leave to remain)
As far as I know eea nationals do not get ILR but Permanent Residence after 5 years of exercising, etc etc. I got the PR card (eea 3) in March 2011. So do I put this date down? Or leave it blank?

Q 1.35 Child’s mother’s nationality. If a British citizen say how and when this was acquired, eg birth, adoption, descent, registration or naturalisation.
My wife (non eea) is also applying for naturalisation together with my child. Both applications on same envelope. So do I put her current nationality and state that she is also applying for BC at same time as child?

Q 1.36 Date mother became settled in the UK (e.g granted indefinite leave to remain)
I guess that under EEA law, my wife (non eea) got automatic Permanent Residence in Nov 2012 after 5 years of being in Uk with me. She never applied for PR (eea 4) though. Do I put this date down or leave it blank?

Section 2: Residence Requirements. As my child was born in UK, I do not have to answer Q 2.1, 2.2, and 2.3, true? but how about Q 2.4 In which country will the child live if this application is granted? Does this question only apply to those children born outside uk? If not I will put uk, is that right?

Section 3. Q 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9, 3.10, 2,11, 3.12 don’t apply to me, true?
But how about Q 3.13, 3.14, 3.15 + 3.16 Parent who is an EEA national exercising EC Treaty rights.
My child was born in 2009 before I naturalised as a BC so should I leave this section blank now that I have become a British Citizen?


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Re: MN1 tricky questions plz help

Post by Jambo » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:58 am

polandcalling wrote:Q. 1,3 Say if and when the child was given indefinite leave to enter/remain in the UK. If the child’s parent is an EEA or Swiss national or a family member of an EEA or Swiss national please ensure that they qualify for permanent residence
My child was born in February 2009 in uk and I (eea national) was not a Permanent Residence then, I got the PR card in 2011 and my wife (non eea) was on EEA 2 Residence Card then. However I have now naturalised as a BC. My child has a Polish passport so should I leave this question blank?
Just leave blank.
Q 1,27 Date father became settled in the UK (e.g granted indefinite leave to remain)
As far as I know eea nationals do not get ILR but Permanent Residence after 5 years of exercising, etc etc. I got the PR card (eea 3) in March 2011. So do I put this date down? Or leave it blank?
March 2011
Q 1.35 Child’s mother’s nationality. If a British citizen say how and when this was acquired, eg birth, adoption, descent, registration or naturalisation.
My wife (non eea) is also applying for naturalisation together with my child. Both applications on same envelope. So do I put her current nationality and state that she is also applying for BC at same time as child?
Her current nationality
Q 1.36 Date mother became settled in the UK (e.g granted indefinite leave to remain)
I guess that under EEA law, my wife (non eea) got automatic Permanent Residence in Nov 2012 after 5 years of being in Uk with me. She never applied for PR (eea 4) though. Do I put this date down or leave it blank?
Either put the date or leave blank. Doesn't really matter.
Section 2: Residence Requirements. As my child was born in UK, I do not have to answer Q 2.1, 2.2, and 2.3, true? but how about Q 2.4 In which country will the child live if this application is granted? Does this question only apply to those children born outside uk? If not I will put uk, is that right?
Correct.
Section 3. Q 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9, 3.10, 2,11, 3.12 don’t apply to me, true?
But how about Q 3.13, 3.14, 3.15 + 3.16 Parent who is an EEA national exercising EC Treaty rights.
My child was born in 2009 before I naturalised as a BC so should I leave this section blank now that I have become a British Citizen?
Correct. Leave blank. doesn't apply to you.

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Post by polandcalling1 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:08 am

Jambo thanks again for such helpful answers. I have now completed the MN1 form for my child and the AN form for my wife following your advice to the letter so fingers crossed.

I also tried to book the private ceremony before the 24th October but it costs £110 pounds and they said they would call me today to let me know if they can do one before 24th. I have already booked one for early November so I think I will just keep it.

I have also received the invitation letter from the HO. We are aware about the new KOLL req. and my wife remembered that she actually did an ESOL skills for life entry 3 awarded by Cambridge University back in 2008 which is the equivalent to B1, is that right? and after looking for the certificate for days, she finally found it.

As my wife is Latin-American, her full name looks like this: Ana Rosa Suarez Fernandez de Badowski (not her real name) apart from her first name and middle name, she must also have her father's surname, mother's surname and the husband's surname at the end. That is the name on her passport but because it was too long, she just used Ana Suarez de Badowski on the ESOL certificate so will the HO accept it even though it does not bear her full long name? what do you think Jambo? or should I just play safe and pay £110 and book it before 24th October? please advise me as I do not want to waste almost 900 quid.

Thanking you in advance

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Post by Amber » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:26 am

Why have you created a new username?
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Post by polandcalling1 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:40 am

Amber I had to create a new account because when I logged in with my usual Polandcalling and entered my password, a message came up saying the password was wrong (even though it was right) then I changed my password to another one and still same thing, I tried 7 times unsuccessfully until a message came up saying I should wait 45 minutes to log in again.

That is why I had to create a new account. Sorry about that.

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Post by Amber » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:16 am

polandcalling1 wrote:Hi I am just wondering if anyone is in the same situation as us.

My non-EEA spouse sent her AN application for naturalisation + the MN1 for our daughter on October 21st and so far money has not been debited nor acknowledgement letters have been received for either application so I am starting to panic.

We sent both applications in the same Special Delivery envelope and it was received next day as we tracked it down online. We did not want to use the NCS. We also enclosed 2 different self-addressed special delivery envelopes in case one application gets approved before the other.

I am an EEA citizen and have recently naturalised as a British Citizen. I got the acknowledgement letter and money was debited from my account after a week and approval letter after 2 months. I applied in August by the way.

Any advice, suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Ayyubi72 wrote:If you browse the forum you will notice that there is a 3-4 weeks delay in application arriving at HO and acknowledgement. There was a rush of applicants in october to beat 28th october changes.

I would say give another 2 weeks before contacting HO.
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