Self sufficient definition

creegun · Post by **creegun** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:41 am

Hello.
I am preparing for moving to Britain with intent to stay and become a citizen.
Now I would have a certain problem proving residency for 5 years due to the first duration, which might very well last a year, I would spend sleeping at friend's homes and more often volunteering at communal farms.
Those places have volunteering forms I could use as proof, yet I want to be on the safe side.
For that I understand would be best to apply and hold a registration certificate. Considering I will not be a student and this isn't likely to be considered work, I would have to be considered self sufficient.
Which leads me to my question:
What are the criteria to be defined as self sufficient according to British law?
The term seems a tad vague...

askmeplz82 · Post by **askmeplz82** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:29 am

creegun wrote:Hello.
I am preparing for moving to Britain with intent to stay and become a citizen.
Now I would have a certain problem proving residency for 5 years due to the first duration, which might very well last a year, I would spend sleeping at friend's homes and more often volunteering at communal farms.
Those places have volunteering forms I could use as proof, yet I want to be on the safe side.
For that I understand would be best to apply and hold a registration certificate. Considering I will not be a student and this isn't likely to be considered work, I would have to be considered self sufficient.
Which leads me to my question:
What are the criteria to be defined as self sufficient according to British law?
The term seems a tad vague...

where you from ?

everything you need to know is here if you are an EU national

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... rights.pdf

creegun · Post by **creegun** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:15 pm

I am an EU national. Recieved a Hungarian passport a month ago

Post by **sheraz7** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:24 pm

creegun wrote: What are the criteria to be defined as self sufficient according to British law?
The term seems a tad vague...

Self sufficiency is one of the mode of exercising treaty rights by EU national and an EU national can become self sufficient on the income/saving/funds of any of its family member. There is no limit/threshold of income/saving as long as the EU national and its family members do not become burden on public funds. Moreover, CSI i.e private medical insurance covering whole family members in majority of circumstances must be possessed as well. Hope it clear you now.

creegun · Post by **creegun** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:42 pm

Thank you. The pdf file clarified quite a bit in understanding the matter.

While on the matter of health insurance.
I came to understand from -
http://www.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/commen ... s/#cddzvrj
this thread, that I would be covered on health insurance requirements by registering for the NHS, given I provide them proof of intention to stay permanently in Britain.
Is this correct?

askmeplz82 · Post by **askmeplz82** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:01 pm

creegun wrote:Thank you. The pdf file clarified quite a bit in understanding the matter.

While on the matter of health insurance.
I came to understand from -
http://www.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/commen ... s/#cddzvrj
this thread, that I would be covered on health insurance requirements by registering for the NHS, given I provide them proof of intention to stay permanently in Britain.
Is this correct?

No you are not. If you have EHIC card from Hungary then you may be OK

he documents that we accept as proof you have comprehensive sickness insurance are:

European Health Insurance Card (EHIC); issued by any EU country but not UK
S1;
S2;
S3; or
an original private health insurance policy document.

http://hungary.angloinfo.com/healthcare ... card-ehic/

Post by **Jambo** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:33 pm

creegun wrote:Thank you. The pdf file clarified quite a bit in understanding the matter.

While on the matter of health insurance.
I came to understand from -
http://www.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/commen ... s/#cddzvrj
this thread, that I would be covered on health insurance requirements by registering for the NHS, given I provide them proof of intention to stay permanently in Britain.
Is this correct?

For CSI see Q6 in EEA FAQs - Common Questions - Read before posting - Residence Card.

You just became Hungarian and already worried about the requirements to become British? I would first just move the UK and see if I like it before spending money on insurance I might not use. As a EU national you have no restrictions living in the UK.

creegun · Post by **creegun** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:56 am

askmeplz82 wrote:No you are not. If you have EHIC card from Hungary then you may be OK

he documents that we accept as proof you have comprehensive sickness insurance are:

European Health Insurance Card (EHIC); issued by any EU country but not UK
S1;
S2;
S3; or
an original private health insurance policy document.

http://hungary.angloinfo.com/healthcare ... card-ehic/

Thank you, reading documents now

Jambo wrote:You just became Hungarian and already worried about the requirements to become British? I would first just move the UK and see if I like it before spending money on insurance I might not use. As a EU national you have no restrictions living in the UK.

I have my reasoning. I worked hard and waited long for this and would strongly prefer my choices not being questioned. You have advice of thoughts that would aid my immigration, that is great and highly appreciated. Yet I have no want for destructive criticism on what is the realization of my long standing dream.

creegun · Post by **creegun** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:49 am

Reason that made me believe btw I am entitled for NHS coverage is what is listed on this site http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/1087.aspx?C ... goryID=162

Post by **Jambo** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:36 am

creegun wrote:Reason that made me believe btw I am entitled for NHS coverage is what is listed on this site http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/1087.aspx?C ... goryID=162

You are entitled for free NHS as a EU citizen. You don't need insurance to be entitled. The need for insurance is only for the purpose of the HO to recognise your residence for Permanent Residence status. That doesn't make sense, I know and that's why I advised maybe not to spend money on insurance if you will end up not needing it (because you will not complete 5 years of residence in the UK).

creegun · Post by **creegun** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:22 am

If bureaucracy made sense it wouldn't be so daunting as it is... Funny thing is I will need to prove intent for permanent residency in order to register for the NHS

Post by **Jambo** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:17 am

creegun wrote:I will need to prove intent for permanent residency in order to register for the NHS

Not really. All that you need to do is to prove you are resident in the country (proof of address). Your future intentions are irrelevant.

creegun · Post by **creegun** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:13 pm

Jambo wrote:
creegun wrote:I will need to prove intent for permanent residency in order to register for the NHS
Not really. All that you need to do is to prove you are resident in the country (proof of address). Your future intentions are irrelevant.

Hence my original problem. I will not have permanent residence for a long period. So I hope bringing bills from transferring to possessions to a storage I plan to rent and converting my savings to British pounds would provide enough evidence

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