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Human right..

Post by nooreh » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:32 am

Hi i am 26 i came in 2011September as a student as my father sponsored my family but i was over 18 soo he couldn't sponsor me soo i came as a student and studied for 2 years student visa expired in 2013 dec before that my dads solicitor applied my visa on human right(all my dads parents and sibings are in Uk and my moms parents passed away so i have no one back home) ..everything went well in 2014 January i have done my biometrics and than they refused said they need more evidence which we gave them as a death certificate of my mums parents and my solicitor replied them than they ask me to pay fees for oral hearing which i paid in june 2014 then they said the previous appeal which my solicitor send to them they received after the due date he could not justify it was his mistake it was late and he supposed to apply for a fresh application. Because i am living with my family and they all are settled here and have british citizenship soo i never worried about anything until i received a deportation letter from home office and we really relyed on that solicitor but he messed up my case he never applied a fresh appeal and he told us he is applying but he didnt and than my dad arranged an other lawyer he stopped my deportation for 10 days and i dont know how but we received a letter om homeoffice asking me about my current circumstances and if i want to add any thing new to my previous humansright application while we were about to go for asylum soo my lawyer stoppedand he continues with my previous human right application he submitted last December 2015 i am scared now can anyone please suggest me what shall i doo as i am the eldest daughter and my parents are worried about me and i am stuck with no job and pasport
Thanksxx

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Re: Human right..

Post by MyGodisable » Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:48 pm

Hi,

Firstly, i feel for you concerning your situation that's is how those solicitors are. They are only interested in money without having feelings for anyone. However, since i don't know may be your previous solicitor applied for you under "Paragragh 276 ade (vi)-no ties or under your own human right (family life) outside the rules", I will just try to give you some advice.

Secondly, i am also in the same situation as you are though i applied under "Paragraph 276 ade (vi)-no ties and under my human rights (family and private life) outside the rules. i am currently not subject to deportation order or removal order.

Thirdly, your removal or deportation from UK will depend on the evidence that was previously submitted by your previous solicitor to substantiate your claim that you enjoy family life with your family members here outside the rules, If that is what your previous solicitor applied for. If the evidence was not so convincing that you enjoy family life with your parent and siblings, you may have a little bit of problem because the Home Office will want to fight it that you have applied in the same category before and you have been refused on the same basis that your evidence was so not convincing.

Fourthly, if your evidence of your family life is convincing that there was more evidence of family life in your previous application, then the Home Office can't deport or remove you as you can challenge them that you enjoy family life with your siblings and parent here in the UK and your removal/deportation will breach your right, most especially, that you are still living with your siblings and parent which is your strong point at this moment. Due to this your removal/deportation will be unlawful in line with the following cases: Beoku-Betts v SSHD [2008] UKHL 397. But before you can claim your removal is unlawful, the evidence you previously submitted most demonstrate that you have Family life that is still continuing in line with the one or more following case law: RP (Zimbabwe) & RP (Zimbabwe) v SSHD EWCA/Civ/2008/825 or Ghising (family life - adults - Gurkha policy) [2012] UKUT 00160 (IAC).

Please read above case law very well for you to understand what Adult family life with parent and siblings is all about. All your material evidence must point to the fact that you have been living with your family since you enter this country and you also live with them when you are in your home country. In relation to the death of your mother, so far as you have evidence to support this you have no problem at all since your family can confirm this with their statement or when you are asked to appeal their new decision to the FTT. Please if you are given a right of appeal this time, please make sure all your family goes with you to court. Note: the case of Beoku-Betts v SSHD [2008] UKHL 397, her father also died but her appeal was still allowed on human right ground.

However, since i don't know the category your previous solicitor applied for before and the level of evidence that was submitted, If you are asked to submit further evidence to substantiate your human right claim, please try to get as many evidence that you can and make sure that all those evidence are relevant to your human right (family life) claim and they point to your family life in line with above case law that i mention in paragragh (v).

Presently, since the Home Office are now asking you about your current circumstances, i think they are now trying to reconsider your case properly and give you a final decision. So make sure that you provide them good reason and proper evidence this time around that will bring a positive change to your application. The most positive thing about your case is that they are now trying to review it and probably grant you some LTR but this depend on you right now to justify the reason why you have to stay with your family with proper evidence (both material and oral evidence).

Finally, I will advise you to go out and find a well qualified solicitor for yourself. Qualified I mean a solicitor regulated by "Solicitor Regulatory Authority" and not those that are OISC. Please this is your final chance to stop your deportation or removal. Your right is your right and don't let anyone including the Home Office to deny you your human right.

If your application or review is successful this time around, you are likely to be granted "Leave to Remain Outside the Rule" on Article grounds but you will have to fight this out as the Home Office will not want to accept this based on your previous application that was refused on the same basis. This is because you will be receiving benefits and so on and the Home Office doesn't like this any more. That's why it is difficult to succeed on this ground but with proper advice from a good solicitor with good material evidence and good submission this time around you will definitely succeed.

Finally, be closer to God and seek his guidance and continue to look for other options to regularised your stay as well. Best of luck.

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Re: Human right..

Post by secret.simon » Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:32 pm

nooreh wrote:my father sponsored my family
How did your father sponsor the family? On what basis did your father and the rest of the family get British citizenship?

Even if a human rights appeal were to success, it would likely have to go through multiple court appeals and then, if successful in the end, you would end up with FLR for 10 years with citizenship in 11 years.

Paragraph 276ADE states
(vi) subject to sub-paragraph (2), is aged 18 years or above, has lived continuously in the UK for less than 20 years (discounting any period of imprisonment) but there would be very significant obstacles to the applicant’s integration into the country to which he would have to go if required to leave the UK.
Given that you are an adult and were an adult when you left the country you came from, you will need to prove the statement underlined above. That will be pretty hard considering that you lived there for the first 18 years of your life.
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Re: Human right..

Post by noajthan » Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:39 pm

MyGodisable wrote:Hi,

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Please read above case law very well for you to understand what Adult family life with parent and siblings is all about. All your material evidence must point to the fact that you have been living with your family since you enter this country and you also live with them when you are in your home country. In relation to the death of your mother, so far as you have evidence to support this you have no problem at all since your family can confirm this with their statement or when you are asked to appeal their new decision to the FTT. Please if you are given a right of appeal this time, please make sure all your family goes with you to court. Note: the case of Beoku-Betts v SSHD [2008] UKHL 397, her father also died but her appeal was still allowed on human right ground.

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Finally, be closer to God and seek his guidance and continue to look for other options to regularised your stay as well. Best of luck.
My understanding is it is the OP's maternal grandparents who have since died - presumably cutting any/all remaining family ties to home country.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Human right..

Post by noajthan » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:16 pm

nooreh wrote:Hi i am 26 i came in 2011September as a student as my father sponsored my family but i was over 18 soo he couldn't sponsor me soo i came as a student and studied for 2 years student visa expired in 2013 dec before that my dads solicitor applied my visa on human right

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i am scared now can anyone please suggest me what shall i do as i am the eldest daughter and my parents are worried about me and i am stuck with no job and passport
Thanksxx
It seems you have been given the run around and let down by unscrupulous or poor quality advice.

Have you thought of taking control of your own life & own affairs?
Especially as you were already an adult when you arrived in UK.

Have you looked into visas in your own right?
For example there is Tier 2 (work) or Tier 4 (further study) and, perhaps in the longer term, there is always the family (spousal) route.

Also, depending where you live, there may be a woman's support/migrant group that you could turn to for advice and support so you won't feel quite so isolated.

Good luck.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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