Unsuccessful naturalisation - no CSI or WRS

[TDQ]

Hi everyone. Just received refusal letter . But it sounds a bit enigmatic for me. may somebody explain whats going on please?

I'm EEA citizen . Living , working and studying (part time) ESOL In the UK since 2008 . Unfortunately lost my job in 2011 and registered as job seeker for some 15 months. than started work again and this is ongoing.
All confirming/requested letters provided . Had no any longer gaps . Just few short holidays .

reason of refusal is :
" As you have not been exercising your treaty rights for a continuous period of 5 years as evidence of your holding comprehensive medical insurance has not been established for the duration of your study period as a student , or 12 months participation in the Workers Registration Scheme , you do not meet the requirements which are set out on our website www.gov.uk and your application has been refused. "

Thank you

[noajthan]

To avoid confusion & jumbled responses, I have moved your question to its own thread (this one).

[1kiril]

Have you read and understood 'Booklet AN' and 'Guide AN' as prompted on the application form before applying?

[TDQ]

Thanks for reply and moving. Yes I studied all mentioned documents before applaing. Not sure where is problem actually. According to HO letter I got being job seeker doesn't discriminate people from applaing for naturalization.

[LilyLalilu]

The problem doesn't seem to be your period as a job-seeker but rather the period where you claim to have exercised treaty rights as a worker/student.

The main questions are:

1) Did you correctly register with the Worker Registration Scheme? If not, you cannot exercise treaty rights as a worker until May 2011 (when WRS was abolished) and that may be one of the problems here. (I am assuming that you are an A8 national as they refer to the WRS in their letter.)

2) If you weren't exercising treaty rigths as a worker because of lack of WRS registration, you could have exercised treaty rights as a student during this time as you say you were also studying alongside work.
In order to exercise treaty rights as a student, you would have needed to have private health insurance (NHS doesn't count) or a non-UK EHIC. Did you have any of these in place?

It's a shame to see that you lost so much money - if you were unsure about whether you acquired Permanent Residence, it would have been safer to apply for confirmation of PR before shooting for naturalisation - only costs £65...

One more thing: On which date did you apply for your naturalisation? If it was after 12/11/2015 you were also required to have a Document Certifying Permanent Residence.

[TDQ]

Hi. Thanks again. Yes, I'm from A8 group and registered in HO/WRS in 2008 , soon after started work. I only told them I am a student to show my presence and activity during my job seeker status. Aplication was made at the end of october 2015. At the moment can proof one more year in the UK , as the P60 obtained. Should I ask for reconsideration ? I've got residential document which I applied for a few years ago - blue booklet .

I can't actually see whats wrong is there as all documents were sent.

[noajthan]

Did you register fully and properly for WRS?
Any job changes in first 12 months?
If so did you reregister?
You mentioned registering a little late - what happened there?

Your time as a student only muddies the water if no CSI or EHIC or exemption due to holding a student RC (or having some sort of foreign health cover).

When were you issued your blue card?

If a jobseeker you will need good supporting documentary evidence (as is the case for the rest of your case).

[TDQ]

Hi.
My first work started in may 2008. In the same month applied for NI number and registered in HO/WRS . Every change of employer was reported during the first year as it was required.
Blue residential document obtained in october 2010.
I also sent them plenty of papers showing my activity during job seeking time. Like a correspondence , application letters, certificates of trainings and courses I've done ( ECDL ; electrical 17th edition; FLT driving licence) which I actually paid myself for . Job Centre was only able to send me to courses like a ' improving CV' or 'How to find a job' . I finally found new job where I'm still working.
The latest attached proof of presence in the UK was my P60 document for 2014/2015 . But now have newest one for 2015/2016 . Will this make any change?
Regards.

[noajthan]

Hi.
My first work started in may 2008. In the same month applied for NI number and registered in HO/WRS . Every change of employer was reported during the first year as it was required.
Blue residential document obtained in october 2010.
I also sent them plenty of papers showing my activity during job seeking time. Like a correspondence , application letters, certificates of trainings and courses I've done ( ECDL ; electrical 17th edition; FLT driving licence) which I actually paid myself for . Job Centre was only able to send me to courses like a ' improving CV' or 'How to find a job' . I finally found new job where I'm still working.
The latest attached proof of presence in the UK was my P60 document for 2014/2015 . But now have newest one for 2015/2016 . Will this make any change?
Regards.

HO seems to have overlooked your WRS certification.
If you are sure you do have it and submitted it all then that appears to be a caseworker error.
You should have grounds to follow up on that but without full timeline details its not clear how much difference that will make.

And HO seems to have focused on you being a student but having no health cover.
Was the blue card issued to you as a student? If so, no need to show CSI.

[TDQ]

Have analised all papers I've got once again step by step and looks like found whats wrong there. So in 2008 I registered in WRS , reported all changes , have got all that documents . Unfortunately when applying sent registering certyficate but not all change reporting docs. Don't ask me why . Shame. Seems like checking twice is not enough.
HO wasn't helpful too . They ask me to fill a gap when I was a job seeker but no any single word that there's something wrong with WRS papers .
As I actually met all requirements is this worth to ask for reconsideration ? Always cheaper than apply again .

[LilyLalilu]

You can ask for reconsideration but it would probably depend on the mood of the caseworker whether this would be granted as the rejection was not due to a procedural error on HO's side but due to you not including all the necessary documents. If you are happy to pay the money for the reconsideration, I'd say go for it, maybe you will be lucky!

[TDQ]

It took a while but finally received all docs back and letter saying - application successfull . Thanks all for help.

[gesha79]

Congratulation. I just have a question. In 2008 i was also a studend ESOL for 3 h per week. I did not have CSI insurance. Did they really asked you about that? As i sent them a letter from the college.

[TDQ]

As a full time worker i didn't need any other inssurance.