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The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by kankerot » Fri May 20, 2016 5:34 pm

Happily I have gained BC for my wife as we were on the old rules but a friend was asking me about the new rules as if I was an expert! So can someone clarify I have it right.

A BC citizen marries a Canadian citizen then they apply for

1) Spouse Visa for 2.5yrs
2) Extend Spouse Visa 2.5yrs
3) Apply for ILR after 5yrs
4) Apply for BC after 12 months ILR so in total 6 years.

Fees are roughly
1)£1200 - spouse visa
2) £600 - extend spouse visa
3) £1800 - ILR
4) £1200 - BC

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Re: The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by Wanderer » Fri May 20, 2016 6:24 pm

Think 2. is £1200 ish too and both 1. and 2. will attract IHS, £600 a pop I think.
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Re: The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by kankerot » Fri May 20, 2016 6:38 pm

So current fees ( just rough fees as I am sure they will rise again in due course)

Fees are roughly
1)£1200 + £600 IHS - spouse visa
2) £1200 + £600 IHS- extend spouse visa
3) £1800 - ILR
4) £1200 - BC

What's IHS?

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Re: The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by secret.simon » Fri May 20, 2016 6:38 pm

The British citizen must be earning at least £18,600 per year.
kankerot wrote:4) Apply for BC after 12 months ILR so in total 6 years.
If married to a British citizen, the Canadian spouse can naturalise immediately after getting ILR. No need to wait for 12 months.

Regarding the fees, add the Immigration Health Surcharge (IHS) fees of £200 per year for the spouse visas.

Factor in that the fees that you have quoted are likely to go up between 25% and 50% every year.

EDIT: Home Office fees 2015/16 PDF.
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Re: The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by Casa » Fri May 20, 2016 6:46 pm

kankerot wrote:So current fees ( just rough fees as I am sure they will rise again in due course)

Fees are roughly
1)£1200 + £600 IHS - spouse visa
2) £1200 + £600 IHS- extend spouse visa
3) £1800 - ILR
4) £1200 - BC

What's IHS?
A BC citizen marries a Canadian citizen then they apply for

1) Spouse Visa for 2.5yrs Yes
2) Extend Spouse Visa 2.5yrs Yes
3) Apply for ILR after 5yrs Yes
4) Apply for BC after 12 months ILR so in total 6 years. If married to a British citizen, BC can be applied for immediately after being granted ILR

Fees are roughly
1)£1200 - spouse visa £1195 + £600 NHS Surcharge
2) £600 - extend spouse visa £811 postal. £1311 in-person PSC + £500 NHS surcharge applicable to both methods of application
3) £1800 - ILR £1500 postal. £1,875 in-person PSC
4) £1200 - BC[/quote] £1,236
(Casa, not CR001)
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Re: The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by kankerot » Fri May 20, 2016 7:14 pm

Everyone thanks.

Just one point why is their ILR and then BC? This means if you were granted ILR on a Monday you could apply for BC on a Tuesday? Why not just combine it?

I understand it made sense when I did my wifes - 2yr Spouse Visa then ILR then another 12 months then BC.

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Re: The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by secret.simon » Fri May 20, 2016 7:31 pm

ILR, PR and British citizenship are all different statuses as per different laws in different areas.

ILR is indefinite leave to remain in the UK. You still retain your original citizenship, which you may have a particular attachment to. It entitles you to certain rights in the UK. So, you are treated as settled in the UK. If a Commonwealth citizen with ILR, you could be an MP or peer in the Lords. Your children born in the UK are automatically British citizens. But, it is a purely domestic status granted by domestic law and has no international recognition. It is thus the easiest to revoke or modify the rights to.

ILR is granted under the UK Immigration Rules, which is governed by the Immigration Act 1971.

PR is acquired automatically on meeting the requirements of Directive 2004/38/EC and the EEA Regulations that transpose it into UK law. That is a status under EU law that can be enforced under that system. So, it is a semi-international status in that it is not purely domestic.

British citizenship is a form of British nationality in that the UK is responsible for you when traveling or residing internationally. That is the significance of the passport; that the country stands behind you when you are abroad. And that is why a British passport or US passport is more valuable than, say a Somali passport or an Iraqi passport. There are international implications and international law involved when citizenship is granted or withdrawn.

British citizenship is issued under the provisions of the British Nationality Act 1981, as amended.

As an aside, passports are issued under the Royal Prerogative (which is administered by ministers in the Queen's name, not the Queen herself), a completely different source of the law. But as it is administered by the Home Office, it can be associated with the citizenship process (the JCAP).

Also, in most other countries, it is the foreign ministry that issues passports, not the Home ministry. But in the UK, as passports are closely associated with citizenship, it is the Home Office that administers both.

As the three statuses operate at completely separate levels and under separate rules and laws, they can't be merged together.
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Re: The overall Process for a Spouse

Post by kankerot » Fri May 20, 2016 8:45 pm

Brilliant full response. Thanks a lot. The part about the value of a British/US Passport over an Iraqi/Somali one made me laugh.

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