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Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by futurebrit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:01 am

Hello,
I am French but I have been living in Scotland since August 2005. I have worked all these years but unfortunately my job ended in March 2016. This was because of capability termination of contract due to having M.E. This is an illness where we cannot really know a timescale for recovery.
Will my illness affect my application for Permanent Resident Card? I have decided to start the process towards citizenship whether the referendum goes in or out the EU.
Also, why would I need health insurance?
Thanks for helping. My illness makes processing things tricky.

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by noajthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:31 pm

futurebrit wrote:Hello,
I am French but I have been living in Scotland since August 2005. I have worked all these years but unfortunately my job ended in March 2016. This was because of capability termination of contract due to having M.E. This is an illness where we cannot really know a timescale for recovery.
Will my illness affect my application for Permanent Resident Card? I have decided to start the process towards citizenship whether the referendum goes in or out the EU.
Also, why would I need health insurance?
Thanks for helping. My illness makes processing things tricky.
If you have been in UK and working continuously you should have acquired PR already, perhaps as early as 2010.
Do you have good documentary supporting evidence available for a continuous 5 year period?

If you do have PR status, all you are doing now is applying for confirmation of that.

And if you do have PR then there is no further need to exercise treaty rights anymore.
So no need for CSI either,

On the other hand if you do not have PR yet then, as not working, you would fall into the self-sufficient category if you have your own funds.
In this category of qualified person you would need to have CSI in place.

Suggest collate your evidence; hopefully you can prove you have acquired PR already.
Bonne chance!
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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by futurebrit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:28 pm

I have worked until March 2016 as such:
August 05 to end February 06 : living au pair so didn't count
March 06 : street fundraiser
April 06: 3 weeks unemployed with 2 JSA paid to me
End of April 06 to end of December 06: part time retail assistant
May 06 to end September 06: part time retail assistant
October 06 to end January 07: part time child care worker
February 07 to end March 08: support worker
April 08 to end May 14: public library assistant
End of June 14 To March 16: uni library assistant
April 16 to now: unable to work and housebound

I'm glad it seems it's doable.
The form confuses me. I'm not sure on what ground I apply.
Do I need a letter from my doctor? Or do I only fill in for a period when I was working? Do I need insurance?

Thank you for your hopeful reply. Xx

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by noajthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:37 pm

futurebrit wrote:I have worked until March 2016 as such:
August 05 to end February 06 : living au pair so didn't count
March 06 : street fundraiser
April 06: 3 weeks unemployed with 2 JSA paid to me
End of April 06 to end of December 06: part time retail assistant
May 06 to end September 06: part time retail assistant
October 06 to end January 07: part time child care worker
February 07 to end March 08: support worker
April 08 to end May 14: public library assistant
End of June 14 To March 16: uni library assistant
April 16 to now: unable to work and housebound

I'm glad it seems it's doable.
The form confuses me. I'm not sure on what ground I apply.
Do I need a letter from my doctor? Or do I only fill in for a period when I was working? Do I need insurance?

Thank you for your hopeful reply. Xx
You need rock-solid evidence of exercising treaty rights, for example working continuously for 5 years (no gaps).
Period 2006 - 2011 looks hopeful
Or 2008 - 2013.

As explained, you don't need insurance as a worker.
It doesn't have to be the last 5 years.
You don't need to be doing anything now if you acquired PR in an earlier year. So you don't need a doctor's letter.

So choose a qualifying period in which you were a worker - and for which you have good (if not unimpeachable) documentary supporting evidence.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by futurebrit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:50 pm

You need rock-solid evidence of exercising treaty rights, for example working continuously for 5 years (no gaps).
Period 2006 - 2011 looks hopeful
Or 2008 - 2013.
Sounds really hopeful! I have kept my leases, council tax papers, I'll have P60 and P45.
I guess I'll use 2008/2013.
So do only put this in the form? It asks for a note of everything since I came to the UK. So they'll see I'm sick now.
Same for benefits, do I need to put in even if it's out of the 2008/2013 period ?

Thanks so much!

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by noajthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:57 pm

futurebrit wrote:
You need rock-solid evidence of exercising treaty rights, for example working continuously for 5 years (no gaps).
Period 2006 - 2011 looks hopeful
Or 2008 - 2013.
Sounds really hopeful! I have kept my leases, council tax papers, I'll have P60 and P45.
I guess I'll use 2008/2013.
So do only put this in the form? It asks for a note of everything since I came to the UK. So they'll see I'm sick now.
Same for benefits, do I need to put in even if it's out of the 2008/2013 period ?

Thanks so much!
Check the guidance for all the necessary evidence, namely proof of:
id, residence in UK, evidence of treaty rights, absences within limits.

You will need proof of residence up to present time - to show you were in UK and continuity of residence was not broken/PR status not lapsed due to absences.

Some members (who have also enjoyed life in UK for donkey's years) have reported success just reporting on qualifying period and then up to date.

Fill the form in as best you can. It does go beyond EU law in gathering information.
You could use an earlier (simpler) version of form as its not a mandatory legal requirement to use the latest 'monster' form.

You can add a note pointing out the relevant qualifying period if you think it helps.
(Caseworker will disregard evidence that she feels is not relevant).
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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by futurebrit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:28 pm

Thank you.
In terms of absences, the longest I've been out was 2 weeks.
I don't have proof of all my holidays though... never kept my flight tickets.
I'll do my very best and ask a lawyer to double check I think. It's so important to me. I want it so I can apply for citizenship after.
I'll try and find the earlier form on the forum. Xxx

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by futurebrit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:31 pm

Sorry, I have ID, proof of renting flats, proof of working, what are evidence of treaty rights?

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by noajthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:37 pm

futurebrit wrote:Sorry, I have ID, proof of renting flats, proof of working, what are evidence of treaty rights?
That's the proof of working.
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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by futurebrit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:09 pm

That's good, I always key my work papers :)

Thanks so much xx

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by noajthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:16 pm

Regarding other forms, you could take a look here:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... l#p1347973
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Permanent residence application when too sick to work.

Post by futurebrit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:51 pm

Thanks, I'll look it up. :)

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