EEA PR Self employed proof

[tresgoya]

After reading some of the rejection stories I now have doubts about my proofs being sufficient enough for self employment. This is what I submitted. Could someone tell me based on his/her experience if this sounds okay. Though I'm fully aware it's hard to tell how HO will judge.

started self-employment in March 2015
So I have paid tax and NI for tax year 2014/15 this January, but seeing I only worked 1 month in tax year 2014/15 my payment was literally peanuts.
I sent these docs to HO, though the tax return was done online, so I only had the confirmation email from there that I did it and the email that they received my payment for tax. No actual paper tax return was submitted.

However my issue is with the time from April 2015 to present. Since the tax returns for tax year Apr 2015 - Apr 2016 are still to be completed (and the National Insurance too), I had no proofs for the payment of these. (the tax is due latest by next January and the invoice for NI won't be sent till next April for this period). I did submit all my monthly invoices and the payments made each month by the client (I only work for one client who pays a set fee each month). But now reading some of the stories I'm scared these won't do. But then again I can't just pay tax and NI random, it's set by HMRC...any help/thoughts on this scenario and possible outcomes?

[noajthan]

After reading some of the rejection stories I now have doubts about my proofs being sufficient enough for self employment. This is what I submitted. Could someone tell me based on his/her experience if this sounds okay. Though I'm fully aware it's hard to tell how HO will judge.

started self-employment in March 2015
So I have paid tax and NI for tax year 2014/15 this January, but seeing I only worked 1 month in tax year 2014/15 my payment was literally peanuts.
I sent these docs to HO, though the tax return was done online, so I only had the confirmation email from there that I did it and the email that they received my payment for tax. No actual paper tax return was submitted.

However my issue is with the time from April 2015 to present. Since the tax returns for tax year Apr 2015 - Apr 2016 are still to be completed (and the National Insurance too), I had no proofs for the payment of these. (the tax is due latest by next January and the invoice for NI won't be sent till next April for this period). I did submit all my monthly invoices and the payments made each month by the client (I only work for one client who pays a set fee each month). But now reading some of the stories I'm scared these won't do. But then again I can't just pay tax and NI random, it's set by HMRC...any help/thoughts on this scenario and possible outcomes?

Submit rock-solid documentary supporting evidence based on the giudance a caseworker will use to assess and weigh up your case:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf

HO will also go above and beyond the cleaner, purer law (genuine and effective work) and apply its PET.MET tests to you:
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/using-m ... ne-worker/

If you measure up you will be fine.

[tresgoya]

You need to show you have been exercising treaty rights as a worker or self-emploted or confirmation of PR will fail.

Gather and submit any/all documentary supporting evidence to support such a case as one or other category of qualified person.

Ref https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf

Just schemed through this doc you linked.

For EEA passport it says:
The passport or ID card must show the applicant has been an EEA national for the whole of
the 5 continuous years.

So my passport - which has been renewed in 2014 - then will not work? As it doesn't show that I was EU national for the whole 5 years? I don't have the old one, as the embassy took that away at the renewal and I had not held ID card form my original country for 15 years..my only iD is the passport that was renewed 2 years ago...????

[tresgoya]

After reading some of the rejection stories I now have doubts about my proofs being sufficient enough for self employment. This is what I submitted. Could someone tell me based on his/her experience if this sounds okay. Though I'm fully aware it's hard to tell how HO will judge.

started self-employment in March 2015
So I have paid tax and NI for tax year 2014/15 this January, but seeing I only worked 1 month in tax year 2014/15 my payment was literally peanuts.
I sent these docs to HO, though the tax return was done online, so I only had the confirmation email from there that I did it and the email that they received my payment for tax. No actual paper tax return was submitted.

However my issue is with the time from April 2015 to present. Since the tax returns for tax year Apr 2015 - Apr 2016 are still to be completed (and the National Insurance too), I had no proofs for the payment of these. (the tax is due latest by next January and the invoice for NI won't be sent till next April for this period). I did submit all my monthly invoices and the payments made each month by the client (I only work for one client who pays a set fee each month). But now reading some of the stories I'm scared these won't do. But then again I can't just pay tax and NI random, it's set by HMRC...any help/thoughts on this scenario and possible outcomes?

Submit rock-solid documentary supporting evidence based on the giudance a caseworker will use to assess and weigh up your case:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf

HO will also go above and beyond the cleaner, purer law (genuine and effective work) and apply its PET.MET tests to you:
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/using-m ... ne-worker/

If you measure up you will be fine.

Thanks noajthan. Yeah I submitted anything I had on that list - apart from the tax return for year 2015/16 as that is not yet due, however that is the tax year that covers the longest period of me being self employed.

As for PET.MET. I should be fine for that as I earned pretty good money and it came in every month like clockworks..

[noajthan]

Thanks noajthan. Yeah I submitted anything I had on that list - apart from the tax return for year 2015/16 as that is not yet due, however it covers the longest period in me being self employed.

As for PET.MET. I should be fine for that as I earned pretty good money and it came in every month like clockworks..

So sit tight, enjoy the Euros.

Just like the footie it could go either way but it seems you've done all you can and avoided obvious pitfalls.

[tresgoya]

Thanks noajthan. Yeah I submitted anything I had on that list - apart from the tax return for year 2015/16 as that is not yet due, however it covers the longest period in me being self employed.

As for PET.MET. I should be fine for that as I earned pretty good money and it came in every month like clockworks..

So sit tight, enjoy the Euros.

Just like the footie it could go either way but it seems you've done all you can and avoided obvious pitfalls.

Thanks. I'll try.It's hard
Would you have any knowledge re: this post below, which has been moved here from the other thread?


"For EEA passport it says:
The passport or ID card must show the applicant has been an EEA national for the whole of
the 5 continuous years.

So my passport - which has been renewed in 2014 - then will not work? As it doesn't show that I was EU national for the whole 5 years? I don't have the old one, as the embassy took that away at the renewal and I had not held ID card form my original country for 15 years..my only iD is the passport that was renewed 2 years ago...????"

[noajthan]

Thanks. I'll try.It's hard
Would you have any knowledge re: this post below, which has been moved here from the other thread?

"For EEA passport it says:

The passport or ID card must show the applicant has been an EEA national for the whole of the 5 continuous years.

So my passport - which has been renewed in 2014 - then will not work? As it doesn't show that I was EU national for the whole 5 years? I don't have the old one, as the embassy took that away at the renewal and I had not held ID card form my original country for 15 years..my only iD is the passport that was renewed 2 years ago...????"

Presumably embassy can back you up as being a bona fide citizen born and bred.
Do you have a birth certificate or any other official documentation from your country?

[tresgoya]

Thanks. I'll try.It's hard
Would you have any knowledge re: this post below, which has been moved here from the other thread?

"For EEA passport it says:

The passport or ID card must show the applicant has been an EEA national for the whole of the 5 continuous years.

So my passport - which has been renewed in 2014 - then will not work? As it doesn't show that I was EU national for the whole 5 years? I don't have the old one, as the embassy took that away at the renewal and I had not held ID card form my original country for 15 years..my only iD is the passport that was renewed 2 years ago...????"

Presumably embassy can back you up as being a bona fide citizen born and bred.
Do you have a birth certificate or any other official documentation from your country?

No, unfortunately no birth certificate. Not here. I'm sure there is one somewhere in one of my relatives' house but I haven't been back to my home country for over a decade, not even for a visit. So it would be rather difficult to retrieve it. They never mentioned this on the form. I think it would be advisable as I'm sure many people are in a similar situation with their renewed passports, no? Otherwise they could have said if your passport is newish then submit such and such other documents. Is my application now will fail because of this? Or do you think they will automatically check passport with the embassies here anyway?

I mean I don't get how they can ask for previous passports? Expired passports are usually not kept unless there is valid visas in them, so it's kinda impossible to submit them...

[noajthan]

No, unfortunately no birth certificate. Not here. I'm sure there is one somewhere in one of my relatives' house but I haven't been back to my home country for over a decade, not even for a visit. So it would be rather difficult to retrieve it. They never mentioned this on the form. I think it would be advisable as I'm sure many people are in a similar situation with their renewed passports, no? Otherwise they could have said if your passport is newish then submit such and such other documents. Is my application now will fail because of this? Or do you think they will automatically check passport with the embassies here anyway?

It may help you to have your original bc or an official copy of your bc anyway.

You cannot be the only person with a new passport.
From memory, it does not seem to have been reported as an issue before nor as a cause of refusal.

[tresgoya]

No, unfortunately no birth certificate. Not here. I'm sure there is one somewhere in one of my relatives' house but I haven't been back to my home country for over a decade, not even for a visit. So it would be rather difficult to retrieve it. They never mentioned this on the form. I think it would be advisable as I'm sure many people are in a similar situation with their renewed passports, no? Otherwise they could have said if your passport is newish then submit such and such other documents. Is my application now will fail because of this? Or do you think they will automatically check passport with the embassies here anyway?

It may help you to have your original bc or an official copy of your bc anyway.

You cannot be the only person with a new passport.
From memory, it does not seem to have been reported as an issue before nor as a cause of refusal.

Thanks. If I do get the bc is it possible to send it in as a supplementary evidence after (IF!) I got the confirmation email with a case number? I assume they give u a ref or case number, right?
I just checked my home country's website and it seems they are rather quick to supply a copy of a lost bc. I don't want to having to appeal or re-apply because of such thing. Or you think I'm better off not drawing extra attention to the matter?