Families of Foreign Students might be deported.

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http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 41279.html

Foreign student families may be deported

At least three children attending Irish primary schools and their parents, who are visiting students, are facing deportation because the youngsters are being educated at State-funded schools.

The Garda National Immigration Bureau is threatening to have all three families deported because, under existing Irish law governing student visas, the children cannot avail of publicly-funded education.Unless the children are now enrolled in private schools at their parents' expense, their parents' study visas will be revoked and the families will be forced to leave the country.

Last night Labour Party President, Michael D Higgins TD said the law amounted to 'a complete violation of the rights of the child'.

Deputy Higgins is to question the Taoiseach on the matter in the Dail next week, while representations are also being made to the government by a number of US senators.The controversy was highlighted on Newstalk radio station's 'Breakfast Show' yesterday when it emerged that a 4-year-old boy attending the Claddagh National School, in Galway, was facing deportation

Real hypocricy considering the thousands of irish illegals' kids being educated in the american public school system.

[yankeegirl]

I've been following this story; it's awful!

I was sent a link to the blog of the father of the 4 year old in Galway.
http://blog.jamesrbritton.com/2007/12/0 ... old-child/
It's high time the Irish politicians get their heads out of their arses and actually take a good look at what's going on around them.

[sakura]

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 41279.html

Foreign student families may be deported

At least three children attending Irish primary schools and their parents, who are visiting students, are facing deportation because the youngsters are being educated at State-funded schools.

The Garda National Immigration Bureau is threatening to have all three families deported because, under existing Irish law governing student visas, the children cannot avail of publicly-funded education.Unless the children are now enrolled in private schools at their parents' expense, their parents' study visas will be revoked and the families will be forced to leave the country.

Last night Labour Party President, Michael D Higgins TD said the law amounted to 'a complete violation of the rights of the child'.

Deputy Higgins is to question the Taoiseach on the matter in the Dail next week, while representations are also being made to the government by a number of US senators.The controversy was highlighted on Newstalk radio station's 'Breakfast Show' yesterday when it emerged that a 4-year-old boy attending the Claddagh National School, in Galway, was facing deportation

Real hypocricy considering the thousands of irish illegals' kids being educated in the american public school system.

I know this might sound harsh, but is this not legal? I mean...putting aside everything else, is the rule in Ireland that children of student visa holders cannot attend state schools legal, and does not break any international rules?

Not suggesting that I agree with it, but I am curious to know. For example, in the US, spouses of student visa holders cannot work or study...I thought that was weird but maybe I was comparing it to the UK's rules....

So, is this rule legal or is it being challenged by human rights activists and etc (e.g. the human right to an education)? Does this policy exist anywhere else (in the EU)?? Ireland seems to like being draconian, but isn't it a valid T&C?

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I've been following this story; it's awful!

I was sent a link to the blog of the father of the 4 year old in Galway.
http://blog.jamesrbritton.com/2007/12/0 ... old-child/
It's high time the Irish politicians get their heads out of their arses and actually take a good look at what's going on around them.

Just 5 years of economic boom and they start thinking that Ireland is some kind of superpower that everyone else in the world is out to scam...I wouldnt be surprised if the people pushing for this are some kind of nationalistic IRA types.

[yankeegirl]

Sakura, I think it is the law in Ireland, but it's not always made known to international students whild child dependents when they apply to go to school in Ireland, and the state school are accepting their childrens, enrollment. Also, as in the case of the 4 year old, there are no private schools anywhere in the area they live, so they're left with the prospect of the child not attending school, which is denying him the right to an education.

[sovtek]

I've been following this story; it's awful!

I was sent a link to the blog of the father of the 4 year old in Galway.
http://blog.jamesrbritton.com/2007/12/0 ... old-child/
It's high time the Irish politicians get their heads out of their arses and actually take a good look at what's going on around them.

Just 5 years of economic boom and they start thinking that Ireland is some kind of superpower that everyone else in the world is out to scam...I wouldnt be surprised if the people pushing for this are some kind of nationalistic IRA types.

I dont think so. It's more like idealogical neo liberal types that have mismanaged the economy and are going to be pitting out of work irish folks against immigrants in a bad way and fairly soon. I think they want the immigrant worker because he/she is cheap and easily controlled through the permit system...but someone who is resident or naturalized isn't going to be so compliant and isn't easily turfed out of the country when things start going south. Oh and they can claim social benefits too.

[walrusgumble]

I've been following this story; it's awful!

I was sent a link to the blog of the father of the 4 year old in Galway.
http://blog.jamesrbritton.com/2007/12/0 ... old-child/
It's high time the Irish politicians get their heads out of their arses and actually take a good look at what's going on around them.

Just 5 years of economic boom and they start thinking that Ireland is some kind of superpower that everyone else in the world is out to scam...I wouldnt be surprised if the people pushing for this are some kind of nationalistic IRA types.

sinn fein are pretty much supportive of immigrants actually, who remember that the table was certain turned to the other end in the past. might want to re check the eu law on the rights of non eu students

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How does it work for children of Work permit holders and 'Asylum claimants'? Will they be allowed to go to public schools?

I know a Non E.U couple who work for an International N.G.O and they receive their salary from abroad and they have their kids in public school here. will they get in trouble over that?

[joesoap101]

The reality is that the government made a balls of it as they have done with just about everything else and recently the shortage of school places has come into sharp focus so who is the easiest target- the kids of those studying in Ireland. They're desperate now that a school in north county Dublin consisted of almost only black kids after it had to be specially sanctioned due to a lack of spaces(that was the excuse anyway - rather the lack of their catholic faith was most likely a bigger reason).

Mind you many of these 'students' would be paying in excess of €12000 per year in tuition fees alone, never mind renting a place to live! Paying that amount of money should entitle you to have your children attend public school because everyone knows that international students fund the gravy train that is 'free' tuition for Irish students, who pay no more than €800 (which the bitterly complain about!)

Again, for anyone who is contemplating living in Ireland, even if it is just to study, think about it very carefully- there are FAR better options and you will save a lot of money!

[Laoch na hEireann]

It says that Students cannot have dependents in the state..........never mide them being in school they are not allowed in Ireland

THATS THE LAW !!!

Its nothing to do with numbers in schools, the dept of justice dont care about numbers in schools they care about the law.

Those on work permits and refugess etc are allowed to have dependents in the state