PR questions - mother and child

[Kittypad]

Hello,

Filling in the EEA (PR) form as the prerequisite to naturalisation and I feel a bit overwhelmed.

I have lived and work in the UK since March 2007 (so 9 years and counting), been at my 2nd employer for the past 7 years. I arrived with a contract already. I was in a brief (2 year) relationship but wasn't married although we did live together. I am on my own but for a child of 5 years. Any help in answering the following questions is much appreciated!

-Am I correct in filling out Sections 1, 5, 9, and 16-19?
-Also am I right to believe I do NOT need a sponsor?
-Do I need to include my 5 year old daughter on the form who was born here of an English father?
-Do I need the required minimum 2 per annum evidence for every single year going back the entire 9+ years or only the past 5 years?

Kindest regards,
Emi

[noajthan]

Welcome.

To avoid confusion & jumbled responses, I have moved your question to its own thread (this one).

[noajthan]

Hello,

Filling in the EEA (PR) form as the prerequisite to naturalisation and I feel a bit overwhelmed.

I have lived and work in the UK since March 2007 (so 9 years and counting), been at my 2nd employer for the past 7 years. I arrived with a contract already. I was in a brief (2 year) relationship but wasn't married although we did live together. I am on my own but for a child of 5 years. Any help in answering the following questions is much appreciated!

-Am I correct in filling out Sections 1, 5, 9, and 16-19?
-Also am I right to believe I do NOT need a sponsor?
-Do I need to include my 5 year old daughter on the form who was born here of an English father?
-Do I need the required minimum 2 per annum evidence for every single year going back the entire 9+ years or only the past 5 years?

Kindest regards,
Emi

Are you a Union citizen?
If so you have no sponsor. You just need to be a qualified person (eg worker).

If from EEA, are you an A8 national?

Daughter is British if father was British before she was born.
In that case she does not need DCPR. Have you applied for her passport?

You may have acquired PR status as early as 2012 if working in UK since 2007.
Provide rock-solid qualifying period whatever the qualifying period (not just 'last 5 years').

Have you managed to escape the UK weather and enjoy any absences from UK since coming here?

Pro tip: If 'monster' PR form is too much to handle you can use an earlier (simpler) version.
Latest version is not a mandatory, legal requirement.

[Kittypad]

Thanks for such a swift response!

I am a Hungarian (so yes A8), and apart from 3 short holidays I have lived in the UK continuously.

Not applied for my daughter's passport yet, we are still exploring the UK! I am a hiker who enjoyed a lot of backpacker adventures in my younger days before I came to the UK so I am content here. Plus last flying trip (to Majorca) was a turbulent one and haven't had the urge to fly since!

Thanks for the pro-tip, will take a look in a moment!

[Richard W]

Daughter is British if father was British before she was born.

Subject to some technicalities and practicalities, such as the mother being single when the child was born, the father being promptly recorded on the birth certificate, and being able to prove that the father was British. 3 generations' birth certificates (daughter, her father and his mother) will probably do the job, and having his passport number will simplify the documentation.

[noajthan]

Thanks for such a swift response!

I am a Hungarian (so yes A8), and apart from 3 short holidays I have lived in the UK continuously.

Not applied for my daughter's passport yet, we are still exploring the UK! I am a hiker who enjoyed a lot of backpacker adventures in my younger days before I came to the UK so I am content here. Plus last flying trip (to Majorca) was a turbulent one and haven't had the urge to fly since!

Thanks for the pro-tip, will take a look in a moment!

Sounds like you have a travel book in you somewhere.

As you are an A8 national, did you register fully and properly for WRS (when working during/before 2011)?

Regarding the form, you could go commando and apply for DCPR by letter.

Or take a look at this PR form a member has compiled by mashing a previous/simpler PR form with the up-to-date HO contact and other details:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/128 ... ple_v2.pdf

Suggest printing a few copies off and trying a few dry runs with your information (& all supporting evidence) - see how it all shapes up.

[Kittypad]

I still have my Accession State Worker Registration Scheme card I got back in 2007 when I started to work here. Got my NI card ASAP also.

Also goodness deary me looking at the link you provided, could it be this easy? Would that really be acceptable? It is only 13 pages and doesn't ask for all my spending habits at all!

I am not doubting but just find it unbelievable that after the enormous pile I have on my desk I would only need this! I could very easily pull out of the pile all that is needed for this short version and send it off on Monday already! It might even be worth the £65 lost if they do reject it lol

Nearly crying in happiness! Thank you!!!

[noajthan]

I still have my Accession State Worker Registration Scheme card I got back in 2007 when I started to work here. Got my NI card ASAP also.

Also goodness deary me looking at the link you provided, could it be this easy? Would that really be acceptable? It is only 13 pages and doesn't ask for all my spending habits at all!

I am not doubting but just find it unbelievable that after the enormous pile I have on my desk I would only need this! I could very easily pull out of the pile all that is needed for this short version and send it off on Monday already! It might even be worth the £65 lost if they do reject it lol

Nearly crying in happiness! Thank you!!!

Yes it could. (Isn't this why you joined the Board?).

Other Union citizen members have reported using that form with success.
And you could simply apply by letter if feeling hardcore, but a form gives the application some structure (which may be beneficial).

Don't get too carried away, you still need rock-solid (if not unimpeachable) documentary supporting evidence to back your case (however you apply).
HO plays hardball and doesn't take any prisoners. The application is binary, you get confirmed or refused.

Did you change employers during your first 12 months of work? If so, did you re-register for WRS in that time?

[Kittypad]

Yes I understand, still the difference between the original form and the one you provided is just massive, so I am happy on that front.

To hear of success with this form by others relieves me of the stress. I will be thorough though. I am going to back it up with as much evidence as I can gather, which I already have a lot of. The original guidance was 2 per year, so I will send in 3 or 4 just to make sure.

I did not change employers until 2 and a half years after I arrived, and I have worked with that company ever since. I have full documentation and permits. I have been mocked for my extensive folders before but now they come in handy it seems!

[noajthan]

Yes I understand, still the difference between the original form and the one you provided is just massive, so I am happy on that front.

To hear of success with this form by others relieves me of the stress. I will be thorough though. I am going to back it up with as much evidence as I can gather, which I already have a lot of. The original guidance was 2 per year, so I will send in 3 or 4 just to make sure.

I did not change employers until 2 and a half years after I arrived, and I have worked with that company ever since. I have full documentation and permits. I have been mocked for my extensive folders before but now they come in handy it seems!

If WRS is in order that's a big plus.

You just need to prove identity, residency, (absences within limits), and that you have been a qualified person for 5 years.

You can get into the head of the caseworker who will assess and weigh up your case in HO guidance, here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf

For child's passport start here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... a-passport

[Kittypad]

5 years. So you would say for the extensive proofs only go back 5 years or the whole time (9 years).

[noajthan]

5 years. So you would say for the extensive proofs only go back 5 years or the whole time (9 years).

If your 5 years was more than 5 years ago you need to submit proof of residency in subsequent years to prove that PR, if acquired, has not been lost due to prolonged absence.

If PR was acquired in 2012 (after entry in 2007) then submit evidence of treaty rights 2007-2012.
And of residency (/absences) from 2007-to current time.

[Kittypad]

Brilliant, thank you so much for all your help!

Apart from all the amazing information to make this so much easier, you have also alleviated a LOT of stress! I greatly appreciate your time and effort.

[noajthan]

Brilliant, thank you so much for all your help!

Apart from all the amazing information to make this so much easier, you have also alleviated a LOT of stress! I greatly appreciate your time and effort.

Glad to hear it.
I'll leave the stress generation to HO.

Keep scans/copies of everything for future reference and in case of any dispute.

Good luck.