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Isn't it dangerous for you to visit your home country?Nuchi wrote:Hi guys, please help me.. I'm also in the same situation. I'm refugee>ilr.i had a travel document which expired now but My home country issued a passport. I want to go and see my mom. But will this affect my British citzenship? Or will I have trouble in the airport?
What travel document did you have?Nuchi wrote:i had a travel document which expired now...
Were you originally seeking protection from that government? If so, has the situation demonstrably changed so that you, and all others in your situation from your country, are now safe to return? Was this the case when you got passport?Nuchi wrote:...but My home country issued a passport.
That's what I thought, I'm planning to go to Malaysia or Singapore to meet her. I can apply for British citzenship in 2017 July.. Even after I received it there's a problem of going back to my country. My husband has leave to remain 2.5 visa on partners 10 year route. He has to renew it in 2018 July for the 3rd time. I think If I go back to my country home office will cancel his visa. Because in the application form there are questions regarding why both you can't go and live on your native country, where did all you visit for holidays, etc..Noetic wrote:Is there a country nearby to your home country that you could meet at? Friends of mine's parents had to do this to see their brother when the quarantine for Ebola was going on in Sierra Leone.
Note you have already reentered the protection of your government by taking or receiving the passport.Nuchi wrote:That's what I thought, I'm planning to go to Malaysia or Singapore to meet her. I can apply for British citzenship in 2017 July.. Even after I received it there's a problem of going back to my country. My husband has leave to remain 2.5 visa on partners 10 year route. He has to renew it in 2018 July for the 3rd time. I think If I go back to my country home office will cancel his visa. Because in the application form there are questions regarding why both you can't go and live on your native country, where did all you visit for holidays, etc..
This path gonna be a long and hard wait. Anyway thank you for your reply..
noajthan wrote:Note you have already reentered the protection of your government by taking or receiving the passport.Nuchi wrote:That's what I thought, I'm planning to go to Malaysia or Singapore to meet her. I can apply for British citzenship in 2017 July.. Even after I received it there's a problem of going back to my country. My husband has leave to remain 2.5 visa on partners 10 year route. He has to renew it in 2018 July for the 3rd time. I think If I go back to my country home office will cancel his visa. Because in the application form there are questions regarding why both you can't go and live on your native country, where did all you visit for holidays, etc..
This path gonna be a long and hard wait. Anyway thank you for your reply..
This is why I posed those questions earlier (which you did not answer). If you were seeking protection from persecution by your former government, then availing yourself to them (by getting a passport for example) pretty much invalidates your original asylum claim, unless the situation has changed in such a substantial manner that what your were fleeing from (life/death persecution from your government) is no longer a concern. That is something that should be very demonstrable as it would probably have involved a change of your former government and been in the international press. If it was the case that your regional situation had collapsed to the point where the government couldn't protect even though it would if it could (Syria for example), then the situation is still murky, depending on what exactly your claim was, but atleast might be defensible.Nuchi wrote:noajthan wrote: Note you have already reentered the protection of your government by taking or receiving the passport.
Even though I'm not travelling to my native country, do you think it may cause problem of taking the passport? I can't travel to other countries in certificate of travel, it's not recognised in most countries... I'm getting worried now
I'm really sorry, I missed your question earlier. My asylum claim was made regarding a releigous issue not under the political situation.ouflak1 wrote:This is why I posed those questions earlier (which you did not answer). If you were seeking protection from persecution by your former government, then availing yourself to them (by getting a passport for example) pretty much invalidates your original asylum claim, unless the situation has changed in such a substantial manner that what your were fleeing from (life/death persecution from your government) is no longer a concern. That is something that should be very demonstrable as it would probably have involved a change of your former government and been in the international press. If it was the case that your regional situation had collapsed to the point where the government couldn't protect even though it would if it could (Syria for example), then the situation is still murky, depending on what exactly your claim was, but atleast might be defensible.Nuchi wrote:noajthan wrote: Note you have already reentered the protection of your government by taking or receiving the passport.
Even though I'm not travelling to my native country, do you think it may cause problem of taking the passport? I can't travel to other countries in certificate of travel, it's not recognised in most countries... I'm getting worried now
Could you elaborate on your original claim?
Even if getting the passport from an embassy in the UK where it's unlikely OP will be persecuted on religious grounds?noajthan wrote: Note you have already reentered the protection of your government by taking or receiving the passport.
My understanding is it depends on whom is persecuting whom.Noetic wrote:Even if getting the passport from an embassy in the UK where it's unlikely OP will be persecuted on religious grounds?noajthan wrote: Note you have already reentered the protection of your government by taking or receiving the passport.
You can get asylum just for that? Jesus....Nuchi wrote:Ok I will break the ice.. My asylum claim on a forced marriage from a South Asia country. I broke a religious rule and shamed them... I have decided not to go there...but I want to travel Some other countries. Certificate of travel not valid for those countries and my embassy didn't reject my application.
Do you guys really think homeoffice will turn down my BC application cause of I gained a native passport?
Thank you and I appreciate your adviceJohnnyZee wrote:Nuchi - If i was you, I would go and get that home country passport cancelled. I don't think you would want to risk BC after all these years spent in the UK. Just wait for your naturalisation and British passport and then you can travel as you see fit. All the best.
I just briefed it, there are much more to this,Wanderer wrote:You can get asylum just for that? Jesus....Nuchi wrote:Ok I will break the ice.. My asylum claim on a forced marriage from a South Asia country. I broke a religious rule and shamed them... I have decided not to go there...but I want to travel Some other countries. Certificate of travel not valid for those countries and my embassy didn't reject my application.
Do you guys really think homeoffice will turn down my BC application cause of I gained a native passport?
Wanderer - This is not the first time you are commenting in such a derogatory way towards refugees. You are in no position to judge. Please try to reserve your comments for when you have something valuable to add. Many thanks.Wanderer wrote:You can get asylum just for that? Jesus....Nuchi wrote:Ok I will break the ice.. My asylum claim on a forced marriage from a South Asia country. I broke a religious rule and shamed them... I have decided not to go there...but I want to travel Some other countries. Certificate of travel not valid for those countries and my embassy didn't reject my application.
Do you guys really think homeoffice will turn down my BC application cause of I gained a native passport?
Nothing against the OP or refugees, just the daft way we have to mop up after the messes created by other countries intolerant belief systems...JohnnyZee wrote:Wanderer - This is not the first time you are commenting in such a derogatory way towards refugees. You are in no position to judge. Please try to reserve your comments for when you have something valuable to add. Many thanks.Wanderer wrote:You can get asylum just for that? Jesus....Nuchi wrote:Ok I will break the ice.. My asylum claim on a forced marriage from a South Asia country. I broke a religious rule and shamed them... I have decided not to go there...but I want to travel Some other countries. Certificate of travel not valid for those countries and my embassy didn't reject my application.
Do you guys really think homeoffice will turn down my BC application cause of I gained a native passport?
Regardless of your views, we are here to help one other on topics of immigration. This is not a forum to discuss politics and judge other people/countries/beliefs. And talking of intolerance, some may view the banning of burkinis in the coastal cities of Europe "intolerant". So let's not open that can of worms. We stay focussed on the job at hand - advice on immigration!Nothing against the OP or refugees, just the daft way we have to mop up after the messes created by other countries intolerant belief systems...
Well, I had been on the McEwans Champion Ale last night!! Last week here before I start work in Denmark. Apologies!JohnnyZee wrote:Regardless of your views, we are here to help one other on topics of immigration. This is not a forum to discuss politics and judge other people/countries/beliefs. And talking of intolerance, some may view the banning of burkinis in the coastal cities of Europe "intolerant". So let's not open that can of worms. We stay focussed on the job at hand - advice on immigration!Nothing against the OP or refugees, just the daft way we have to mop up after the messes created by other countries intolerant belief systems...