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Bobthemoggie
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Supporting docs for Schegen visa for Family of EU citizen

Post by Bobthemoggie » Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:39 am

Hi,

Sorry if its answered discussed.

I have query about documents that need to be submitted for Dependent parents (Family of EU Citizen) for entry into below countries:
- The Netherlands
- Luxembourg
- Germany

a) For Initial visa from outside EU, (at their respective embassy) what category of visa you need to select?
[i.e. on simplified Schegen application form what type needs to be selected - visit / other]?

b) There's lot of confusion around what documents need to be submitted at Entry Visa stage -vs- at Residence permit application stage?
- What documents should be submitted apart from Birth Certificate & copy of EU citizen passport?

c) On Netherlands website there's mention like below:

[quote]If you are older than 21 years of age and you are the child or grandchild of an EU/ EEA or Swiss citizen

o A copy of the EU registration / permanent residence of your EU/ EEA or Swiss sponsor
o Evidence, for example a declaration issued by a competent authority, showing you received material support from your EU/EEA or Swiss family member to provide for you in your basic needs in your country of origin or country of former residence in light of your financial and personal situation.[/quote]

What does it mean i.e. what should be supplied?
Any thoughts on that

Kindly suggest

cheers

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Re: Supporting docs for Schegen visa for Family of EU citize

Post by Bobthemoggie » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:54 pm

Hi All

Further I have two queries
1. Luxebourg:

They states-
The person that claims to be dependent must bring proof of financial support and proof of

regular money transfers made to his/her attention by the person he/she wishes to join in Luxembourg

(bank transfers, transfers made by an agency, etc mentioning the name of the person transferring the

money as well as the recipient’s name). Also, the state of indigence in the country of origin must be proved.
What does this means?
Anybody has luck for dependent parents through Royal Douche of Luxembourg?

2. Netherlands:

Ind. website states-
If you are a family member in the ascending line (parent or grandparent) of an EU/ EEA or Swiss citizen, or
If you are older than 21 years of age and you are the child or grandchild of an EU/ EEA or Swiss citizen
o A document showing the family relationship between you and the EU/EEA or Swiss citizen
o A copy of the EU registration / permanent residence of your EU/ EEA or Swiss sponsor
o Evidence, for example a declaration issued by a competent authority, showing you received material support from your EU/EEA or Swiss family member to provide for you in your basic needs in your country of origin or country of former residence in light of your financial and personal situation.
o Evidence showing that your sponsor has sufficient means of support in order to prevent your sponsor and you (and possible other family members) from depending on public resources.
Is this required at Visa stage / at RC stage?

Also what kind of documents you need to produce for above.

Any help will be highly appriciated.

Cheers

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Re: Supporting docs for Schegen visa for Family of EU citize

Post by secret.simon » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:18 pm

Bobthemoggie wrote:Royal Douche of Luxembourg
I can understand if you are not particularly impressed by one of the capitals of the EU (the other two being Brussels and Strasbourg). But Luxembourg is the world's only extant Grand Duchy, not a Royal Douche (and given the choice of words, I am not taking the piss).

It is interesting that the Luxembourgish website specifically states that
Bobthemoggie wrote:the state of indigence in the country of origin must be proved.
The ECJ/CJEU is based in Luxembourg and I am sure there is a judgement of that most august body that states that the reasons for dependency ought not to be looked into. I am sure that senior moderators will guide more precisely as to the specific case-law.

Broadly, in order for your parents/grandparents or children over 21 to qualify under the terms of the Directive 2004/38/EC, they must prove that they are dependent on you.

Have a read of this blog post on When is the family member of an EU citizen ‘dependent' on that citizen?
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Re: Supporting docs for Schegen visa for Family of EU citize

Post by noajthan » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:42 pm

Destitution is not a valid prerequisite for dependency.
Although I suppose its all relative when looking from Luxemburg end of the telescope.

Case law of Lim, Jia and Reyes may inform and edify.
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Re: Supporting docs for Schegen visa for Family of EU citize

Post by Bobthemoggie » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:21 pm

Hi secret.simon

thanks for catching the error. Do sincerely apologies for that.
I guess its a good learning lesson on grammer & being extremly careful on spellings.
:(

Thanks for your input.

Also do you have any idea on Netherland's requirements

Cheers
secret.simon wrote:
Bobthemoggie wrote:Royal Douche of Luxembourg
I can understand if you are not particularly impressed by one of the capitals of the EU (the other two being Brussels and Strasbourg). But Luxembourg is the world's only extant Grand Duchy, not a Royal Douche (and given the choice of words, I am not taking the piss).

It is interesting that the Luxembourgish website specifically states that
Bobthemoggie wrote:the state of indigence in the country of origin must be proved.
The ECJ/CJEU is based in Luxembourg and I am sure there is a judgement of that most august body that states that the reasons for dependency ought not to be looked into. I am sure that senior moderators will guide more precisely as to the specific case-law.

Broadly, in order for your parents/grandparents or children over 21 to qualify under the terms of the Directive 2004/38/EC, they must prove that they are dependent on you.

Have a read of this blog post on When is the family member of an EU citizen ‘dependent' on that citizen?

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Re: Supporting docs for Schegen visa for Family of EU citize

Post by noajthan » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:16 pm

Just google for BritCits SS country guide.
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