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Bobthemoggie
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Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Bobthemoggie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:30 pm

Hi Guys

I am a UK/EU Citizen, currently based in UK.

1. Option1: Is it possible to process my non-EU parents (who are outside Europe currently) Schengen visa for Netherlands & few more coutries while I am still in UK (accompanying visa)?
- What supporting document do we need to submit?
- what should be the type of visa- family visit / tourism / Other- family of EU citizen

2. Option2:
After I find a job & move to Netherlands, then only I start processing their Schengen visa.
Again,
- what should be the type of visa- family visit / tourism / Other- family of EU citizen
- What document do we need to submit?
[Risk: if their visa is rejected then my country move will in way will be wasted.]

I am particularly confused because there is no clarity on what documents you need to submit at visa application stage & while applying for RC

Kindly advise which route is more easy / dependable.?
Any thoughts any experience will be highly appreciated.

Cheers

noajthan
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by noajthan » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:05 pm

1) For SS visa type should not matter;
suggest Schengen.
Requirements from embassy.
Applicants apply, not you.

2) See 1.
RC is optional and only applicable once in country.
Get visa first.

RC docs are different from Schengen docs.
Check Directive plus any local NL requirements.

NL is great place so trip unlikely to be wasted.

Remember to take all family, sell or rent off UK houae/ business etc to improve chance of fulfilling centre of life requirements.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

Bobthemoggie
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Bobthemoggie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:39 pm

noajthan wrote:1) For SS visa type should not matter;
suggest Schengen.
Requirements from embassy.
Applicants apply, not you.

2) See 1.
RC is optional and only applicable once in country.
Get visa first.

RC docs are different from Schengen docs.
Check Directive plus any local NL requirements.

NL is great place so trip unlikely to be wasted.

Remember to take all family, sell or rent off UK houae/ business etc to improve chance of fulfilling centre of life requirements.
Thanks for your response.
I think my concern is slightly different.
I am not currently focused on full Surinder Singh end-to-end or not even Netherlands RC.
The question pertains to very initial stage i.e. obtaining visa for family members

I am in UK & I have a job prospect in Netherlands.
But before I leave UK for good, I would like to get make sure that- my non-EU parents will get the Schegen visa ( the most basic requirement) and on that point-
1. I would like to know - What type of visa they should apply (i.e. Tourist-Schengen / family of EU-Schengen)?
2. Also what should be the right timming for application- i.e. Before moving to Netherlands- could they apply (showing I will be accompanying them ) or after I move-in to NL & find a apartment?

Thanks

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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by noajthan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:00 am

Bobthemoggie wrote:
noajthan wrote:
Thanks for your response.
I think my concern is slightly different.
I am not currently focused on full Surinder Singh end-to-end or not even Netherlands RC.
The question pertains to very initial stage i.e. obtaining visa for family members

I am in UK & I have a job prospect in Netherlands.
But before I leave UK for good, I would like to get make sure that- my non-EU parents will get the Schegen visa ( the most basic requirement) and on that point-
1. I would like to know - What type of visa they should apply (i.e. Tourist-Schengen / family of EU-Schengen)?
2. Also what should be the right timming for application- i.e. Before moving to Netherlands- could they apply (showing I will be accompanying them ) or after I move-in to NL & find a apartment?

Thanks
I mentioned RC as you did.

1) It shouldn't matter. But EU flavour seems logical.

2) It doesn't matter; move together or join later: your choice.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

Bobthemoggie
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Bobthemoggie » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:58 pm

Thanks for kind response.

I am in a unique situation-

I'm getting a couple of months temp job on contract basis in Netherlands
But later the same job will take me to Czech Republic after 3-4 initial months in the NL

Is this time period sufficient for moving to NL, then starting Parents EU-family member visa, their moving to NL & application for RC in NL.

If their RC is not processed in time & if I need to move to Czech republic then what will happen to them?

What can members suggest in this unique situation.

Cheers,

noajthan
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by noajthan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:25 pm

Bobthemoggie wrote:Thanks for kind response.

I am in a unique situation-

I'm getting a couple of months temp job on contract basis in Netherlands
But later the same job will take me to Czech Republic after 3-4 initial months in the NL

Is this time period sufficient for moving to NL, then starting Parents EU-family member visa, their moving to NL & application for RC in NL.

If their RC is not processed in time & if I need to move to Czech republic then what will happen to them?

What can members suggest in this unique situation.

Cheers,
RC is optional.
Parents can move with you to CR (free movement).
Apply for RC in CR.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

Bobthemoggie
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Bobthemoggie » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:43 pm

Hi All

Need bit of help.
Looks like I could get a short term contract role in NL.
I will be operating through my UK Ltd company as contractor to start with.

In order for me to bring the parents under Freedom of movement & get the residence permit, what supporting documents will we need to supply while applying for RC with Netherlands IND authority?

I was remitting regularly to my parents over last 6 months from my UK bank account.

Does anybody have any experience of bringing parents (asending line) to the Netherlands & success in obtaining RC from Netherlands authority?

IND website provides following guideline( but any example / elaboration of sample supporting docs will be really great)
Your application must be accompanied by the following supplementary evidence
and documents:
– The document showing the family relationship (see the explanation ‘Foreign
documents’ and ‘Language’ on page 2 of this form).
– A copy of the certificate of lawful residence of your sponsor.
– Evidence showing that you recieved material support from your sponsor in
your country of origin or former residence.
– Evidence, for example a declaration issued by the competent authority,
showing you received material support to provide in your basic needs in
your country of origin or country of former residence because of your
financial and personal situation.
– Evidence showing that your sponsor (still) has income from work or other
sufficient means of existence in order to prevent your sponsor and his family
members from depending on public resources.
Your experience, suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks a lot

noajthan
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by noajthan » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:54 pm

If the intention is to return to UK (sometime), a short-term contract (for a UK company) may not convince UK that you have moved centre of life to NL.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

Bobthemoggie
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Bobthemoggie » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:11 pm

noajthan wrote:If the intention is to return to UK (sometime), a short-term contract (for a UK company) may not convince UK that you have moved centre of life to NL.
Returning to UK is a distant dream/long term wish & I would look for further job in NL once current contract ends. But currently biggest challenge or priority is to gather as information as I could on settling in NL (i.e. getting the correct Schgen visa, obtaining RC for parents & supporting documents for whole of that process)

So on this background kindly request you to advise on -

In order for me to bring the parents under Freedom of movement & get the residence permit, what supporting documents will we need to supply while applying at RC stage with Netherlands IND authority?

Getting RC will be a big success in itself.
So any information , success experience on Netherlands RC for parents will be highly appreciated.
Thanks for kind support

Cheers

Bobthemoggie
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Bobthemoggie » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:34 pm

Hi all

need your help on this.

n order for me to bring the parents under Freedom of movement & get the residence permit, what supporting documents will we need to supply while applying for RC with Netherlands IND authority?

I was remitting regularly to my parents over last 6 months from my UK bank account.

Does anybody have any experience of bringing parents (asending line) to the Netherlands & success in obtaining RC from Netherlands authority?

IND website provides following guideline( but any example / elaboration of sample supporting docs will be really great)

Your application must be accompanied by the following supplementary evidence
and documents:
– The document showing the family relationship (see the explanation ‘Foreign
documents’ and ‘Language’ on page 2 of this form).
– A copy of the certificate of lawful residence of your sponsor.
– Evidence showing that you recieved material support from your sponsor in
your country of origin or former residence.
– Evidence, for example a declaration issued by the competent authority,
showing you received material support to provide in your basic needs in
your country of origin or country of former residence because of your
financial and personal situation.
– Evidence showing that your sponsor (still) has income from work or other
sufficient means of existence in order to prevent your sponsor and his family
members from depending on public resources.


Thanks

Bobthemoggie
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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Bobthemoggie » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:40 pm

Hi Guys

Awaiting for your further response on this thread.

Thanks

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Re: Entry clearance for Netherlands

Post by Wanderer » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:19 am

Bobthemoggie wrote:Hi All

Need bit of help.
Looks like I could get a short term contract role in NL.
I will be operating through my UK Ltd company as contractor to start with.

In order for me to bring the parents under Freedom of movement & get the residence permit, what supporting documents will we need to supply while applying for RC with Netherlands IND authority?

I was remitting regularly to my parents over last 6 months from my UK bank account.

Does anybody have any experience of bringing parents (asending line) to the Netherlands & success in obtaining RC from Netherlands authority?

IND website provides following guideline( but any example / elaboration of sample supporting docs will be really great)
Your application must be accompanied by the following supplementary evidence
and documents:
– The document showing the family relationship (see the explanation ‘Foreign
documents’ and ‘Language’ on page 2 of this form).
– A copy of the certificate of lawful residence of your sponsor.
– Evidence showing that you recieved material support from your sponsor in
your country of origin or former residence.
– Evidence, for example a declaration issued by the competent authority,
showing you received material support to provide in your basic needs in
your country of origin or country of former residence because of your
financial and personal situation.
– Evidence showing that your sponsor (still) has income from work or other
sufficient means of existence in order to prevent your sponsor and his family
members from depending on public resources.
Your experience, suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks a lot
Remember too you must pay tax both personal and company in NL to the Dutch tax people from day one and the Dutch are particular keen on this kind of avoidance, which is why most IT contractors go via a local payroll under the 30% tax scheme for contractors if it's still going in NL.

There is no tax harmonisation within the EU so you must abide by local rules.
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