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Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by ranchers » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:22 am

Hi,

Applied for wife visa in lahore pkistan on the basis of spouse Got refused on the basis of lack of communication proof.
First refusal that i didnt send marriage certificate which was actually sent so wrong refusal.
Another one is. I have sent data and screen shots of skype and whatsapp to show my daily calls and chats. They didnt recognise it. For them whatsapp can be of anyone.

Please share some thoughts on it ? Has anybody used whatsapp data ?
Secondly i am thinking of applying in one week after refusal with some more evidence of emails and facebook chat. Donyou think its agood idea ?
Help!!!!!
Thanks. Syed

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by MobeenSaeed » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:25 pm

ranchers wrote:Hi,

Applied for wife visa in lahore pkistan on the basis of spouse Got refused on the basis of lack of communication proof.
First refusal that i didnt send marriage certificate which was actually sent so wrong refusal.
Another one is. I have sent data and screen shots of skype and whatsapp to show my daily calls and chats. They didnt recognise it. For them whatsapp can be of anyone.

Please share some thoughts on it ? Has anybody used whatsapp data ?
Secondly i am thinking of applying in one week after refusal with some more evidence of emails and facebook chat. Donyou think its agood idea ?
Help!!!!!
Thanks. Syed
When did you apply for your biometrics? and what date did it get rejected?

I find it hard to believe that they didn't see a marriage certificate in your supporting documents if you sent it. Do you mean, they said it's not a legit marriage certificate?

They didn't recognise your WhatsApp and Skype screenshots? what do you mean by that? How did you take the screenshots?

You should have included all your conversations, Facebook and emails included, you had with your spouse prior and after marriage. So, yes, if you had these, why not include them in?

As to when the best time is to apply, that's entirely up to you, of course, but, I believe you need to look into more detail about what I have mentioned above!

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by ranchers » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:15 pm

Thanks for your reply.. i have sent new style Nadra Marriage certificate which you can get from Nadra now a days. It has a barrcode and both english/urdu details on it. Signed and stamped by union council. Visa officer said i didnt include my marriage certificate. Dont understand if he has missed it completely or what ?

Whatsapp screen shots i have samsung S7 so when tou swipe your hand on it you can get screenshot. I have attached these with the application. He said whatsapp wont show who it belongs to so he is not sure.

Skype i took screenshots by pressing printscreen button. He has rejected those too.

I agree i didnt show these for before and after marriage. Those were only after marriage ones

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by MobeenSaeed » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:31 pm

ranchers wrote:Thanks for your reply.. i have sent new style Nadra Marriage certificate which you can get from Nadra now a days. It has a barrcode and both english/urdu details on it. Signed and stamped by union council. Visa officer said i didnt include my marriage certificate. Dont understand if he has missed it completely or what ?

Whatsapp screen shots i have samsung S7 so when tou swipe your hand on it you can get screenshot. I have attached these with the application. He said whatsapp wont show who it belongs to so he is not sure.

Skype i took screenshots by pressing printscreen button. He has rejected those too.

I agree i didnt show these for before and after marriage. Those were only after marriage ones
By marriage certificate, could they perhaps be referring to the original nikah-nama with english translation?

Well, if you got refused on "won't show who it belongs to", I am assuming when you took the screenshots and I assume only you took these screenshots and not your spouse. When you took the screenshots, doesn't her name appear on the top as it usually does? and are you not mentioned within the messages itself whilst messaging her?
Same goes for skype, when you take screenshots, your profile name and picture (if you have one) appears on the top left and your spouse's whilst talking to her. So, again, it comes down to how you took the screenshots, because it's impossible for this not to appear on WhatsApp and especially on Skype.
Of course, this assumes, this is the sole reason why it got refused and not due to lack of evidence provided.
But you have mentioned that you only provided after marriage and didn't provide Facebook convos and emails even though you profess that you do have them. This would be certainly something I would discuss in detail with your solicitor.

Is this your first time applying?
When was the date of your biometrics? and what date did it get refused?

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by ranchers » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:54 am

Applied on 28 aug 2016 under priority service
Decision made on 19 october 2016

Yes it was my first time

So what you suggest ?
I am thinking of reapplying next week with evidences of facebook and emails prior to marriage and after marriage. What do you think ?

Also i have installed whatsapp on PC so better screenshots of chat rather than phone screenshots.

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by Mojohnson » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:37 am

Emails would be good and you can use facebook too - I would include some phonecall records if you have any.

I did not show any communication from before marriage to be honest and didn't get any problems.

I just had some phone records and a few WhatsApp screenshots too like you. I sent the same marriage certificate as you but I think I also included the urdu nikkahnama too.

I think it just depends on who is assessing your application at the end of the day.

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by MobeenSaeed » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:59 am

ranchers wrote:Applied on 28 aug 2016 under priority service
Decision made on 19 october 2016

Yes it was my first time

So what you suggest ?
I am thinking of reapplying next week with evidences of facebook and emails prior to marriage and after marriage. What do you think ?

Also i have installed whatsapp on PC so better screenshots of chat rather than phone screenshots.
Seems like you have everything covered. But, one thing I will mention, once you have everything completed and compiled, book a consultation with an experienced solicitor within this field, so that he/she can go over everything you completed and make sure to focus on the areas you got rejected in, by asking him/her to go through all you messages you have printed off and your marriage certificate. It won't cost more than £200 and will be worth it, because it will truly be an expert's opinion on it!

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by Casa » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:27 am

A document check by a legal professional may well cost more than £200.
(Casa, not CR001)
Please don't send me PMs asking for immigration advice on posts that are on the open forum. If I haven't responded there, it's because I don't have the answer. I'm a moderator, not a legal professional.

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Re: Wife visa refuse. Help needed plz

Post by MobeenSaeed » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:39 am

Probably. But, usually, when you book your first consultation, there's a set price set by the solicitor and then after the first consultation, yes, the price varies depending on the documents itself and time required to complete them. The obvious caveat being in this case, this is based on my experience.

So, if I could find a solicitor or solicitors to do complete document checks for £200 on my first consultation, I'm sure so could OP!

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