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Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Deceased Ma

Post by ann001 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:03 pm

Hi All,
I will be really thankful if someone please help.
My friend died recently and he was a Portugese passport holder in UK. His family currently hold Indian passport and in UK since 2015 and currently hold 'Family Member-EU Residence' visa which was granted in 8/2016.
Also his family members never lived in Portugal before and was always in India until 2015 when they came to UK.
Also his wife is illiterate so cant give any english/life in uk etc tests.
Can someone please advice if they can settle in UK or what are their options?

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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by Casa » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:10 pm

Read through the information under 10.2 in this link, however there are conditions which the family may not be able to meet, including but not limited to:
Example
The spouse of an EEA national who has died will qualify if:
 they were residing in the UK as a family member of the EEA national for at least a year
immediately before their death, and
 they are working in the UK
.

AND
Status of the non-EEA national
To be eligible to retain the right of residence, the non-EEA national must be undertaking
activities similar to those of a qualified person. This means they must be either:
 a worker
 a self-employed person, or
 a self-sufficient person.
They must also remain a worker or self-employed person or a self-sufficient person to
continue to retain their rights under the Regulations.


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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by Obie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:12 am

Yes. This is likely a Regulation 10 (2).

One can only hope the family members had been residing in the UK for a period of 1 year before the Qualified person died.
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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by ann001 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:02 am

Thanks for the help guys. Yes they lived in UK for more than a year but his wife doesnt work. Am i correct that she needs to be working to be eligible? Is their any way out of same?
Also is their a possiblity that his children(6,10,15.5 years old) can apply for residency?
She is in enormous financial pressure and can't afford to go back to India.

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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by Casa » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:11 am

Obie is better placed to answer your questions but I can say that the option of showing 'self-sufficiency' requires his wife to take out Comprehensive Sickness Insurance (CSI).
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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by ann001 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:47 am

Thanks CASA
OBIE can you please let me know. Also, it will be really helpful if you detail the process as I have no clue of residency card etc.

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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by noajthan » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:42 am

All family members need CSI; no benefits.
Good supporting evidence required.

Google EEA FM on Gov UK website.

Suggest find a migrant advice or community law centre.
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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by Obie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:02 am

Was the EEA national a Migrant worker shortly before he died? Are the
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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by ann001 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:44 pm

Obie wrote:Was the EEA national a Migrant worker shortly before he died? Are the
Hi Obie,
Below are all details:
1. Deceased EEA National(Portugese passport holder)-Self Employed
2. Family Members came in UK on April 2015 with 'VISA EEA FP: FAMILY MEMBER TO JOIN ABC' issues on 12/01/15 valid till 12/7/15. Applied for Residence in May15, got 'Family Member-EU Residence' on 02/08/2016
3. Currently, Child Benefit and Tax Credit coming under deceased Mr. A name but soon will be moved to Mrs. A name.

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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by Obie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:40 pm

Need to inform the department of works and pension that the EU national is deceased.

They may be able to retain a right of residence, but regulation 10 (6) remains an obstacle.

However they should be able to rely on regulation 10 (3), which is not subject to regulation 10 (6) conditions. This part unlike regulation 10 (2), does not lead to PR under regulation 15 (1)(F), and may in fact break accrued residence for the purpose of 15 (1)(f).

I wish you all the best for the future and sorry about your loss.
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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by ann001 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:41 pm

Thanks obie
Sorry if i sound daff, does this means their current visa no longer valid? I was in the impression that they can live until that expires.

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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by Obie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:08 pm

ann001 wrote:Thanks obie
Sorry if i sound daff, does this means their current visa no longer valid? I was in the impression that they can live until that expires.
Current Residence Permit may not have a right attached to it. Essentially it may be invalid.

Although if they continue to have right of residence, that may be immaterial.
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Re: Immigration of Indian Passport Family Members of Decease

Post by noajthan » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:58 pm

ann001 wrote:Thanks obie
Sorry if i sound daff, does this means their current visa no longer valid? I was in the impression that they can live until that expires.
No 'visa' on EU route and RCs only last as long as conditions are met; not necessarily for '5years'.
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