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Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Only for UK Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) points system. This route is now closed to new applicants.

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Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by tier1enterpreneur » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:10 pm

Hello forum.
I would need your urgent help as I am due to apply in 2 month March for the extension of tier 1 entrepreneur visa 50 K category. I successfully entered the route before 5th April 2014 (transitional period)

One of my employee was with me for 22 months and has left the company due to a dispute.
I have lost the employee passport copies. I still have the bio metric front and back and her provisional license front copy. Is this going to be enough to submit as employee evidence. There is no way I can ask her to send me the passport copies again due to the dispute.

I had the 2nd employee for 14 months and no more a part of the company but I have this employees passport and biometric info front and back.

I had a 3rd Employee for 8 months and no more a part of the company but I have this employees passport and biometric info front and back.

I am confused what to do as if I omit the first employee due to lack of passport copies then can I combine the 2nd and 3rd employee for 2 years ? They were on the same post however had different salaries due to level of experience.

If i combine 2nd and 3rd employee I have 22 months of payslips so will need to employ someone for 2 more months to fulfil 2 years.

Please advise what is your expertise on the above matter.

I appreciate your responses.
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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by zimba » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 pm

Any of these copies are acceptable:

- Passport first page, showing all information about someone (Only EEA citizens)
- Evidence of a settled person's status (ILR or PR)
- ID card of an EEA citizen
- Evidence of someone's successful asylum application in the UK
- Birth certificates showing at least the name of a parent
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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by tier1enterpreneur » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:33 pm

Thanks a lot Zimba.

I thought we had to provide passport copies as well as BRP.
If Only Brp is acceptable then I can use
employee 1 - 22 months and
employee 2 - 14 months
n that covers me meeting the requirement.

That is a relief. Is there somewhere in the policy guidance which confirms this because when I read it was not clear.

But as this is a brp it has all the required information of a ILR settled worker.


Thanks.
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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by tier1enterpreneur » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:37 pm

Forgot to mention of course all my ex employees had ILR on their BRP
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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by babaty2k02 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:49 pm

You could include all the 3 employee's details in the application, meaning you'll be having more than enough hours

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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by tier1enterpreneur » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:22 pm

Yes I will be doing exactly that. Thanks a lot for all the help. Currently the business has no employees due to quieter markets and business requirements would this affect the application ?

I intend to start again once the visa has been extended as I believe we need to continue showing employment once it has been extended. Please correct me if I am wrong. Once the extension is successful do I still count as transitional period and can have 1 employee for 2 years or does the rule change as I am applying in March 2017 for extension and transitional period period no longer works for me.

I got my entrepreneur visa in march 2014.

Thanks.
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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by samaygrg » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:34 pm

You said you have 2 months of time and you are short of 2 months, keeping the disputable employee aside. I am wondering why wouldn't you try to employ one staff (who has required credentials) for another extra 2 months (or vice versa) to be within the safe-play?
Hope it made a sense.


tier1enterpreneur wrote:Hello forum.
I would need your urgent help as I am due to apply in 2 month March for the extension of tier 1 entrepreneur visa 50 K category. I successfully entered the route before 5th April 2014 (transitional period)

One of my employee was with me for 22 months and has left the company due to a dispute.
I have lost the employee passport copies. I still have the bio metric front and back and her provisional license front copy. Is this going to be enough to submit as employee evidence. There is no way I can ask her to send me the passport copies again due to the dispute.

I had the 2nd employee for 14 months and no more a part of the company but I have this employees passport and biometric info front and back.

I had a 3rd Employee for 8 months and no more a part of the company but I have this employees passport and biometric info front and back.

I am confused what to do as if I omit the first employee due to lack of passport copies then can I combine the 2nd and 3rd employee for 2 years ? They were on the same post however had different salaries due to level of experience.

If i combine 2nd and 3rd employee I have 22 months of payslips so will need to employ someone for 2 more months to fulfil 2 years.

Please advise what is your expertise on the above matter.

I appreciate your responses.

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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by tier1enterpreneur » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:46 pm

Hello Samaygrg.
I was contemplating doing that too. I think it makes sense if I play safe as I have had horrible experiences with UKBA while applying for the initial application. So will go ahead and do that too. Thanks for your advise.

Thanks.
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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by samaygrg » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:49 pm

Yes mate, I also would have done same if I was in your situation. As we all know, HO is such an unpredictable-decision-making authority.
All we can do is do our best to give them as per the guidance in the simplest way possible.

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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by sarapianta » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:46 pm

zimba88 wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 pm
Any of these copies are acceptable:

- Passport first page, showing all information about someone (Only EEA citizens)
- Evidence of a settled person's status (ILR or PR)
- ID card of an EEA citizen
- Evidence of someone's successful asylum application in the UK
- Birth certificates showing at least the name of a parent
Hello,
My boyfriend applied for a Tier1 Entrepreneur Visa extension as well and his application was refused.
One of the points argued is that he presented a birth certificate for one of his employees as he did not have an alternative valid ID and this was not accepted. They say that only passport, driving licence or national IDs can be shown as proof of identity.
According to the letter application for administrative review is possible but no new evidences can be presented.
May I ask you where can I find official guidelines what ID documents are accepted (as you say here that birth certificates should be fine)?
Thank you very much in advance.

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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by marcnath » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:43 pm

sarapianta wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:46 pm
zimba88 wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 pm
Any of these copies are acceptable:

- Passport first page, showing all information about someone (Only EEA citizens)
- Evidence of a settled person's status (ILR or PR)
- ID card of an EEA citizen
- Evidence of someone's successful asylum application in the UK
- Birth certificates showing at least the name of a parent
Hello,
My boyfriend applied for a Tier1 Entrepreneur Visa extension as well and his application was refused.
One of the points argued is that he presented a birth certificate for one of his employees as he did not have an alternative valid ID and this was not accepted. They say that only passport, driving licence or national IDs can be shown as proof of identity.
According to the letter application for administrative review is possible but no new evidences can be presented.
May I ask you where can I find official guidelines what ID documents are accepted (as you say here that birth certificates should be fine)?
Thank you very much in advance.
You should have started a new post rather than tag on to an old post.

I am assuming the employee is a British Citizen.

You will find the requirements in Pg 53 of the guidance.

The relevant section for this is :

A birth certificate, which demonstrates the employee was born in the UK or Colonies before 1 January 1983;
 If the employee was born in the UK on after 1 January 1983, a birth certificate, together with documentation, such as a passport or naturalisation certificate, which confirms one of their parents had settled status in the UK when the employee was born, and additionally, if the parent is the father of the employee, a marriage certificate to the mother;


So, whether BC alone is sufficient depends on when the employee was born.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Urgent Tier1 Entrepreneur Extension Employee Evidence.

Post by sarapianta » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:50 pm

marcnath wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:43 pm
sarapianta wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:46 pm
zimba88 wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 pm
Any of these copies are acceptable:

- Passport first page, showing all information about someone (Only EEA citizens)
- Evidence of a settled person's status (ILR or PR)
- ID card of an EEA citizen
- Evidence of someone's successful asylum application in the UK
- Birth certificates showing at least the name of a parent
Hello,
My boyfriend applied for a Tier1 Entrepreneur Visa extension as well and his application was refused.
One of the points argued is that he presented a birth certificate for one of his employees as he did not have an alternative valid ID and this was not accepted. They say that only passport, driving licence or national IDs can be shown as proof of identity.
According to the letter application for administrative review is possible but no new evidences can be presented.
May I ask you where can I find official guidelines what ID documents are accepted (as you say here that birth certificates should be fine)?
Thank you very much in advance.
You should have started a new post rather than tag on to an old post.

I am assuming the employee is a British Citizen.

You will find the requirements in Pg 53 of the guidance.

The relevant section for this is :

A birth certificate, which demonstrates the employee was born in the UK or Colonies before 1 January 1983;
 If the employee was born in the UK on after 1 January 1983, a birth certificate, together with documentation, such as a passport or naturalisation certificate, which confirms one of their parents had settled status in the UK when the employee was born, and additionally, if the parent is the father of the employee, a marriage certificate to the mother;


So, whether BC alone is sufficient depends on when the employee was born.
Hello marcnath, thank you for your answer.

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