Application for PR: form EEA (PR) - questions

[espeja]

Hello all,

This is a great forum. I have a rather lengthy list of questions, some are less obvious then others. Hopefully people here can help me work through them one by one.

I am doing the online application and have come across some issues. I am an EEA national and have been in the UK since 2006 (almost 11 years). So here we go:

1. Absences from the UK. I have counted a total of 14 absences during the whole period I have been in the UK (11 years). However I cannot remember or find any evidence of my very first absence, in 2006. I know it was in December 2006 for no more than two weeks, however, having exhausted all options, I cannot provide the exact dates. Could you advise what to do about this? Will it not matter as it was more than 5 years ago? Or is there a way around it, e.g. can I give approximate dates, or explain this in a cover letter?

2. I worked for one of my employers from 2007, however they went bankrupt in 2011. Their business along with the employees and employment history was taken over by another company. I have a contract with that latter company that states that for the purpose of continuity, my employment start date is the 2007 date. Is it therefore enough to just list the latter company on the list of my employers?

3. I was a postgraduate student in 2009-2011 and I also worked full time during that time. As a legal worker I was entitled to healthcare under the NHS. However the application demands to select one of the health insurance options for students. Having selected ''none of the above'' I was shown message saying my application may be rejected on that basis. Should I be worried, especially given that it was more than 5 years ago?

4. WRS (accession state workers). I was first issued a WRS certificate in November 2006. I changed jobs in July 2007 but wasn't aware I had to re-register under the new employer, and didn't do so. I worked there for 3 months and then moved on to another job, where I still didn't re-register until July 2008. Could this 1 year period of work without a valid WRS card affect my application, even though it was more than 5 years ago?

5. WRS - my second WRS application was when I was with the employer who went into administration (mentioned above in section 3). As explained above, I didn't list them as one of my employers (although I did mention them in the ''additional information'' section). However it is their name that appears on my WRS certificate. Would be sufficient to explain all this in a cover letter, or should I amend my application somehow?

6. WRS - the application form demands to provide the date I applied for my WRS card. I have the date I was issued it, but not the date I applied - as it was more than a decade ago. Is there a way to find out when I applied? The WRS does not exist anymore, is there a way to contact anybody about this? Or work around it on the application form?

7. Public funds. During my time at the university, I was awarded £500 per year (over the course of 2 years) towards my studies from ILA Scotland. Am I correct thinking I do not need to list this as having claimed public funds?

8. Personal details. I was married in 2008 and divorced in 2016. However I didn't go back to my maiden name after the divorce. Some of my documentation is in my maiden name (including the WRS certificates), while the rest is in my married name. Should I send my marriage and/or divorce documents along with my application?

[noajthan]

To avoid confusion & jumbled responses, I have moved your question to its own thread (this one).

[noajthan]

Hello all,

This is a great forum. I have a rather lengthy list of questions, some are less obvious then others. Hopefully people here can help me work through them one by one.

I am doing the online application and have come across some issues. I am an EEA national and have been in the UK since 2006 (almost 11 years). So here we go:

1. Absences from the UK. I have counted a total of 14 absences during the whole period I have been in the UK (11 years). However I cannot remember or find any evidence of my very first absence, in 2006. I know it was in December 2006 for no more than two weeks, however, having exhausted all options, I cannot provide the exact dates. Could you advise what to do about this? Will it not matter as it was more than 5 years ago? Or is there a way around it, e.g. can I give approximate dates, or explain this in a cover letter?

2. I worked for one of my employers from 2007, however they went bankrupt in 2011. Their business along with the employees and employment history was taken over by another company. I have a contract with that latter company that states that for the purpose of continuity, my employment start date is the 2007 date. Is it therefore enough to just list the latter company on the list of my employers?

3. I was a postgraduate student in 2009-2011 and I also worked full time during that time. As a legal worker I was entitled to healthcare under the NHS. However the application demands to select one of the health insurance options for students. Having selected ''none of the above'' I was shown message saying my application may be rejected on that basis. Should I be worried, especially given that it was more than 5 years ago?

4. WRS (accession state workers). I was first issued a WRS certificate in November 2006. I changed jobs in July 2007 but wasn't aware I had to re-register under the new employer, and didn't do so. I worked there for 3 months and then moved on to another job, where I still didn't re-register until July 2008. Could this 1 year period of work without a valid WRS card affect my application, even though it was more than 5 years ago?

5. WRS - my second WRS application was when I was with the employer who went into administration (mentioned above in section 3). As explained above, I didn't list them as one of my employers (although I did mention them in the ''additional information'' section). However it is their name that appears on my WRS certificate. Would be sufficient to explain all this in a cover letter, or should I amend my application somehow?

6. WRS - the application form demands to provide the date I applied for my WRS card. I have the date I was issued it, but not the date I applied - as it was more than a decade ago. Is there a way to find out when I applied? The WRS does not exist anymore, is there a way to contact anybody about this? Or work around it on the application form?

7. Public funds. During my time at the university, I was awarded £500 per year (over the course of 2 years) towards my studies from ILA Scotland. Am I correct thinking I do not need to list this as having claimed public funds?

8. Personal details. I was married in 2008 and divorced in 2016. However I didn't go back to my maiden name after the divorce. Some of my documentation is in my maiden name (including the WRS certificates), while the rest is in my married name. Should I send my marriage and/or divorce documents along with my application?

1) Estimate month/year.

2) List company name as was. Explain company changed name due to a later takeover (if you wish to clarify).

3) A student with no CSI may not have been a qualified person.
Unless you had some alternative.
So your time as a student may have caused your PR clock to stop.

4) Yes, improper (not simply late) registration will have invalidated your period of work as you had to be registered for first 12 months of work (whilst WRS was in existence).
Technically your employer employed an illegal worker and is liable to legal penalties. Fortunately you are not.

Your PR clock will not have been running, as a worker, until WRS ended. May 2011.

5) See #2

6) Another example of why all immigration-related documents should be kept. For ever.
Estimate or use date of issue and/or explain in a cogent cover note.

There is/was a WRS bureau email address but its recently been reported as now being defunct.

7) Such questions go above and beyond requirements under EU law.

8] Explain name changes in a cogent cover letter. And answer appropriate question on form;
(its Q1.5 on current paper form).

If not applying as a dependent its not clear that evidence of name change/s has to be submitted.
You always could do so - your call.

[espeja]

3) A student with no CSI may not have been a qualified person.
Unless you had some alternative.
So your time as a student may have caused your PR clock to stop

Many thanks for your help, just regarding your answer above: I was covered under the NHS as I was paying national insurance during that period, surely that's a sufficient alternative?

[noajthan]

3) A student with no CSI may not have been a qualified person.
Unless you had some alternative.
So your time as a student may have caused your PR clock to stop

Many thanks for your help, just regarding your answer above: I was covered under the NHS as I was paying national insurance during that period, surely that's a sufficient alternative?

The alternatives to CSI (for a student) are a foreign EHIC, some bi-lateral health cover from your country to UK; and/or sponsorship by another Union citizen; or a student RC issued in/before 2011.

As per the Directive (EU law) you, when an economically-inactive student, are tasked with not being an unbearable burden on the state's social assistance system (including NHS).
So using NHS for free as a student does not alleviate that burden - it surely adds to it.

If you were a worker qualified person (and can demonstrate the work was genuine and effective) then yes, as a taxpayer, using NHS is all good.
Hence in the UK's transposition of the Directive, no CSI is required for workers, just for students and selfsufficient qualified persons.

If you were both a worker and student (at the same time) the question is more about whether the work was genuine and effective and which activity (working/studying) was supplementary and marginal to the other.