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Transitional Arrangement!

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Transitional Arrangement!

Post by The Symbol » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:36 am

Hey guys,

Apologies if this has been discussed before but couldn't spot the specific answer in any of the previous threads!

I am applying for Extension under transitional arrangement and claiming points for:
1 full time employee for 7 months,
And another full time employee for 17 months

My query is; in table 3b2 on the form, am I showing it as a single job done by 2 employees OR 2 different jobs?

Much appreciated!

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by sm12 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:22 pm

What was the job title that they had? Was it the same?

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by The Symbol » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:24 pm

sm12 wrote:What was the job title that they had? Was it the same?
Yes, it was!

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by sm12 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:29 pm

Then that'll come under one job, not two separate jobs as it seems the second employee replaced the first one.
So you'll show 24 months of work in the same job.

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by The Symbol » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:31 pm

sm12 wrote:Then that'll come under one job, not two separate jobs as it seems the second employee replaced the first one.
So you'll show 24 months of work in the same job.
Appreciate your quick response buddy!

Did you go through the similar route?

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by sm12 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:59 pm

Hi,
No worries!
I didn't apply using the transitional arrangement rules, but there are many on this forum who hired 4 people for 6 months or 1 person for 24 months.

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by businessmen aces » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:56 pm

I Hired about 18 to 20 people and some worked for only 2 weeks but got points for all of them. Its total hours it does not matter if its 2 employees , 4 employees or 20 employees.

There is no such rule that you should have minimum 6 months by each worker as i even had some period of 1 to 2 months break where there was no employee

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by sm12 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:00 am

Yes, many people can be employed for the same role.

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by businessmen aces » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:01 am

some months total hours worked by all employees combines only 70 hours and in some months 400 they just counted total hours thats it. You cant have perfect 130 hours week exact all 24 months in real business thats impossible as employees resign get sick etc

I just send exact information how employees worked total hours was about 5000 and average salary £ 10 per hour

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by zimba » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:05 am

businessmen aces wrote:some months total hours worked by all employees combines only 70 hours and in some months 400 they just counted total hours thats it. You cant have perfect 130 hours week exact all 24 months in real business thats impossible as employees resign get sick etc
No one said you must have perfect 130 hours per month or so ! The rules simply require min of 30 hours per week to count something as full time, hours worked over 30 will BE IGNORED. Any paid day off from work (e.g sick day, holiday, etc) must be treated as a NORMAL WORK DAY
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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by tier1in2014 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:29 am

businessmen aces wrote:I Hired about 18 to 20 people and some worked for only 2 weeks but got points for all of them. Its total hours it does not matter if its 2 employees , 4 employees or 20 employees.

There is no such rule that you should have minimum 6 months by each worker as i even had some period of 1 to 2 months break where there was no employee
That's good know they award you points for even 2 weeks employee as I was very confused how would they work out part time hrs . Thanks
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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by businessmen aces » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:19 pm

zimba88 wrote:
businessmen aces wrote:some months total hours worked by all employees combines only 70 hours and in some months 400 they just counted total hours thats it. You cant have perfect 130 hours week exact all 24 months in real business thats impossible as employees resign get sick etc
No one said you must have perfect 130 hours per month or so ! The rules simply require min of 30 hours per week to count something as full time, hours worked over 30 will BE IGNORED. Any paid day off from work (e.g sick day, holiday, etc) must be treated as a NORMAL WORK DAY
But for me if a worker worked 40 hours week i got points for that for full 40 hours and on other hand if someone worked 20 hours we got only 20 hours. They just counted total hours in 3 years which was about 5000 and we were required 3120 so we had 2000 hours extra.

Even now while we waited for over 8 months for them to process our visa we did about 2000 hours but these hours will not be counted.

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by The Symbol » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:05 pm

zimba88 wrote:
businessmen aces wrote:some months total hours worked by all employees combines only 70 hours and in some months 400 they just counted total hours thats it. You cant have perfect 130 hours week exact all 24 months in real business thats impossible as employees resign get sick etc
No one said you must have perfect 130 hours per month or so ! The rules simply require min of 30 hours per week to count something as full time, hours worked over 30 will BE IGNORED. Any paid day off from work (e.g sick day, holiday, etc) must be treated as a NORMAL WORK DAY
Hey Zimba,

Apologies to bump this one up but the post went off the radar and became one of those hours/weeks/number of employee discussion, ha! Still looking for a concrete answer to my original question if you can possibly guide.

Let me rephrase: Do we have to have to create TWO jobs/posts under Transitional Arrangements or 1 job/post could work as long as its equivalent to 2 full time jobs?

Much appreciated!

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Re: Transitional Arrangement!

Post by zimba » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:01 pm

Under transitional arrangements, equivalent of 2 full time jobs or 24 months (104 weeks) of full time employment
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