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Employment help

Post by marshal8732 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:05 pm

Members I need some help in regards to employment.

I applied for tier 1 in July 2014 and application was approved in October 2014.

My question is it possible to have 2 part time employees to form 1 full time employees.

As my accountant advised me it's not possible after April 2014.
As he advised me I need 2 full times employees rather than having 1 full time and 2 part time.

I would appreciate if someone can clarify that.

Thank you

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Re: Employment help

Post by marshal8732 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:18 pm

It would really appreciate if I can get some help on this topic.

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Re: Employment help

Post by seasky » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:40 pm

marshal8732 wrote:It would really appreciate if I can get some help on this topic.
I would think 2 hrs is a little short for bumping a question?

You aee fine. Guidance is ur friend

 the hours of workers in 2 part-time jobs can be combined to add up to 30 hours a
week or more and form the equivalent of one full-time job, as long as the 2 part-time
jobs exist for 12 months. By way of an example, it could be that one employee
worked 20 hours in one part-time job; Another employee worked 10 hours in another
part-time job; If they have both been employed for at least 12 months, they can be
combined to make one full-time job. If you are combining jobs in this way, you must
make it clear in your application which employees/jobs are being used;

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Re: Employment help

Post by marshal8732 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:46 pm

Thank you for that.

Just want to confirm does the part time jobs needs to run parallel.

I mean if had 2 part time employees for 10 months and 1 employees leave and the employment is not fillet until 1 month later.

Would that be ok as long the new employe works for 3 months to make the lost month

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Re: Employment help

Post by seasky » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:54 pm

You can have a month gap with ome worker part time but that would not be counted at all. When new part time worker joins clock continues (in ur example for another 2 months)

HO wants FT job. So morning cook and afternoon cook together OK. morning only (part time) is not Part of a FT job

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Re: Employment help

Post by marshal8732 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:08 pm

You mean both part time jobs have to be same in order to qualify for 1 full time job.

Or can they be different types of part time job as long both have been for 12 months.

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Re: Employment help

Post by seasky » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:03 pm

Same 'job' it is not about making hours. It is about creating a new 'position' I assume policy makers hoped that would last longer than odd hourly jobs (as we see on this forum, that intent is highly abused, but we leave that for now)

So 15 hrs nuclear fission physicist and 15 hours missle guidance engineer cannot be mixed into one job (I could have used the example of waiter and cook, but that would get me in trouble with the moderators)

But you could have 2 nuclear fission physicists each doing 15 hrs and that would be fine (and again that proves there is a need for this position and hopefully it lasts)

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Re: Employment help

Post by zimba » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:23 pm

marshal8732 wrote:You mean both part time jobs have to be same in order to qualify for 1 full time job.
Or can they be different types of part time job as long both have been for 12 months.
So 15 hrs nuclear fission physicist and 15 hours missle guidance engineer cannot be mixed into one job (I could have used the example of waiter and cook, but that would get me in trouble with the moderators)
It does NOT need to even be the same position. You can have two or more part time positions for radically different things BUT BOTH the part time positions have to last for 12 months in order to for them to be combined and make a full time position.
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Re: Employment help

Post by seasky » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:09 pm

zimba88 wrote:
marshal8732 wrote:You mean both part time jobs have to be same in order to qualify for 1 full time job.
Or can they be different types of part time job as long both have been for 12 months.
So 15 hrs nuclear fission physicist and 15 hours missle guidance engineer cannot be mixed into one job (I could have used the example of waiter and cook, but that would get me in trouble with the moderators)
It does NOT need to even be the same position. You can have two or more part time positions for radically different things BUT BOTH the part time positions have to last for 12 months in order to for them to be combined and make a full time position.
I stand corrected to the guru. But there is something about "same job"? Is it you can't have a position for 8 months and a differnt position for the last 4?

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Re: Employment help

Post by zimba » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:33 pm

Yes, you cannot use any position that has existed for less than 12 months.
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Re: Employment help

Post by marshal8732 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:35 pm

In my case

I have 1 full time employee and 2 part time employee.

One of my part time employee has left after 7 months.
If I get another employee for same position can I combine that with my existing part time employee who is currently employed.

Thank you

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Re: Employment help

Post by zimba » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:23 pm

Yes, given that your new part time employee will be effectively the replacement for the one which left and works for at least 5 months in that position to complete a 12 months period.
It is quite important to understand that a position/vacancy/job is NOT the same as an employee. A position can be occupied by many employees in any period but such vacancy/position/job MUST exist for at least 12 months (not necessarily continuously) in order to be accepted and combined with another position.
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