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(5)Where—
( a )any court in the United Kingdom or, on or after the appointed day, any court in a qualifying territory] makes an order authorising the adoption of a minor who is not a British citizen; or
(b)a minor who is not a British citizen is adopted under a Convention adoption,that minor shall, if the requirements of subsection (5A) are met, be a British citizen as from the date on which the order is made or the Convention adoption is effected, as the case may be effected under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom.
(5A)Those requirements are that on the date on which the order is made or the Convention adoption is effected (as the case may be)—
( a )the adopter or, in the case of a joint adoption, one of the adopters is a British citizen; and
(b)in a case within subsection (5)(b), the adopter or, in the case of a joint adoption, both of the adopters are habitually resident in the United Kingdom or in a designated territory.]
I think OP should take the local authority up on their offer. If the parents are born after 01-01-1983, then we will need information in regards to the grandparent of the mother's parent.Gilraena wrote:We know the birth parents were both born in the UK to most likely British parents (there is a possibility to check the birth grandparents status through the GRO), the local authority our little one comes from are willing to request birth mum's birth certificate from the GRO and also there are social workers who know the birth parents and their history since they were children... But like I mentioned, the Passport office were not interested in us supplying this evidence. They also couldn't guarantee that if we supplied new application with the above documents it would be successful... Nobody else can submit the application as we have full parental responsibility now. So we seem to be stuck...
Except that the children concerned were not granted citizenship. The Passport Office doesn't grant citizenship to anyone. They were granted British passports without sufficient evidence of citizenship. There is a significant difference between the two situations. If someone was granted a Home Office Certificate of Registration or Naturalisation without full compliance with the statutory requirements, that person's British citizenship remains valid unless there is scope to treat as a nullity. Which is unusual.Obie wrote: If proven once, and recorded, i do not think it will need to be proven all the time. This approach of having to prove was adopted by passport office in regards to EEA national from A8 countries, whose children were granted citizenship without checks in regards to WRS.
[b]Ali, R (On the Application Of) v The Secretary of State for the Home Department [2012] EWHC 3379 (Admin) (27 November 2012) [/b] wrote: 23.The task of the court is the familiar one of evaluating whether the decision was one open to the Secretary of State on the information available to her, or otherwise considering conventional pubic law grounds of challenge. That is not to say that the fact that an individual has previously been issued with a British passport is not important in evaluating whether the decision reached was a rational one, in public law terms. It is unhelpful in this context to speak in terms of burdens of proof. The reality is that, having once been satisfied that an individual was entitled to a passport,the Secretary of State would need to advance cogent reasons that stood up to scrutiny why, on a later application, she was taking a different view. The refusal to renew the passport of someone who has enjoyed the benefits of a British passport for a decade is a serious step with serious consequences. No less would be required to satisfy a rationality test.
That may be true, but it is not applicable here. There nothing to suggest that the person is a non-citizen. The only issue is the suspicion that the passport may have been issued without the necessary checks (trusting the applicant rather than verifying the detail). In my opinion, that is not sufficient to refuse accepting the current passport as evidence of citizenship. And of course the passport office could have handled this a lot better, for example they could have asked for addition evidence once the problem was identified, rather than acting in this (typical) passive aggressive manner.JAJ wrote:On the other hand- if the Passport Office grant a British passport to a non-citizen, the passport is invalid and may be withdrawn, or renewal denied, at any time.
The child in question has never held a passport.thsths wrote:The only issue is the suspicion that the passport may have been issued without the necessary checks (trusting the applicant rather than verifying the detail).
Of course- but it often hasn't worked that way in reality. The Passport Office has- on occasions- re-opened nationality questions on application for a passport renewal. And if a passport has been expired too long (happens sometimes), or lost/stolen (happens a lot), then nationality must be re-evidenced from scratch. In theory the Passport Office should have records of every previous passport issued, but we know that's not been the reality either.Obie wrote:With the utmost respect i do not agree with the above for 2 reason.
1. It is inconsistent with the 1971 Act.
2. It is inconsistent with jurisprudence of the UK courts.
As a matter of law, a Person's citizenship is proven by the issuance of a passport. The passport proves a person's right. It does not grant it, it proves the existence of it. It proves that on a balance of probabilities, the Secretary of State was satisfied that the Person was a British Citizen when it was issued. It has similar evidential value to a Naturalisation certificate or anything else, although mindful of the fact that the Naturalisation Certificate actually grants the right under the power conferred on the Secretary of State under 6(1) or 6(2) as the case may be. I do not accept that it does not. Even though the issuance of passport is not a statutory but prerogative power, it has significance in our statue, as a document evidencing rights.
Section 3(9) of the 1971 act, confirms a person can provide a passport as evidence of their nationality. So i do not accept that a passport has no meaning. Once issued it has a meaning and evidential strength. If the Home Office decide to content that a person is not British, the burden lies on her to demonstrate this, and she will have to provide cogent evidence to demonstrate that, in the same way, as she will need to demonstrate a Naturalisation certificate was improperly issued.
For the purpose of section 1(1) of the British Nationality Act 1981 the status of the parents at the time of birth is relevant, not any subsequent developments. (and the definition of "parent" in the 1981 Act is not the same as the concept of "parental responsibility" in the Children Act 1989 and equivalent Scottish legislation).Gilraena wrote:It appears there is a proper legal loop here... It seems to me that our situation is not covered by any of the legislations, both in the UK and EU. What I struggle to understand is the fact that we can only apply for our son's passport as EEA citizens, so even if we provided the original birth certificates of birth parents and grandparents and the adoption order, evidencing the change of name etc. it could be rejected as the application form is constructed in such way that you provide parents details.. We can't put birth parents details there as they have no parental responsibility anymore...
The adoption provisions in the Act are in section 1(5) and only apply to U.K. adoptions (plus the Channel Island, Isle of Man, British territories and certain non-U.K. adoptions such as Hague Convention but only if at least one of the adoptive parents is a British citizen). Where an adoption does not fall into these criteria, including most overseas adoptions or U.K. adoptions by non-British citizens, then the normal remedy is for the child to be registered as a British citizen under section 3(1) of the British Nationality Act 1981 (if the child is not already a British citizen). This allows the Secretary of State to register any child as British- but application has to be made before age 18.It's not clear to me which legal act takes priority here, if any. .. For example, if it is BNA81, then supplying birth certificates of birth family would make sense, except the reason mentioned above. Another issue is might not be possible to obtain them - the families of looked after children, removed from them for various reason rarely wish to engage with social services and the information about their eligibility to British citizenship is rarely obtained... I'm probably exaggerating here, but we are talking about the most vulnerable children not having any security at all, not even in regards of their right to live and remain in the UK.
Interesting question. Section 67(1) appears to give a wide-ranging status in law to children adopted after the section came into force (30.12.2005) and I fail to see any exclusion of this application for nationality purposes. There appears to be a conflict between this statute and section 1(5) of the Act and only the courts could conclusively determine what this means. As I understand it, normally a later statute should override an earlier one and the courts should interpret the law as much as possible within the ECHR. This would lead one to expect that the courts would rule that if by some chance your child was not British at birth, he would have become British on adoption- but it is never possible to predict exactly how a court would rule. And legal action is usually not the best way to resolve the issue.Secondly, if the Adoption and Children Act 2002 as well as the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) state that adopted child is to be treated and gains all the rights and entitlements of biological child, plus EEA treaty rights state that children born in the UK(doesn't mention adopted in the circumstances we are in) to EEA citizens with permanent residency are automatically British(as per section 1b of BNA81), then why there is no paragraph anywhere covering our situation: UK born child, adopted (so in theory to be treated as born to the parents) in the UK by EEA parents with PR?
It's so complicated! And fascinating isn't it?
Another step i think you can pursue is the passport office failure to comply with their policy.[b]Passport Office GUidance[/b] wrote:It follows the only persons who acquire British citizenship automatically by
adoption are those who do not already possess that citizenship before
adoption and are legally adopted in the United Kingdom by an adopter (either
adopter in the case of joint adoption) who is a British citizen at the date of the
adoption. However,
it is not in the interests of the adopted person to enquire
too closely into his or her natural parentage and further information should not
be requested without reference to a line manager since such enquiries require
tactful handling.
Would the registration be valid if the child were born in the UK and had a British citizen parent (as defined by the act) at birth?JAJ wrote:Although registration as a British citizen under section 3(1) of the Act is an option- I wouldn't recommend it. The reason is that if someone is registered under section 3(1) and has a British citizen natural parent [parent as defined by the Act] at the time of birth, that person becomes a British citizen by descent. Which may impact your future grandchildren if they were born outside the United Kingdom.