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NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by an0nym0us » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:48 pm

Hi Everyone,

Since the INIS in Ireland is extremely delaying the process and people have been waiting for months and even over a year and so for the visa decision to be made, would it wise to withdraw the visa application and apply in another EU country just on accompany basis rather than join basis and then once the visa has been granted, the EU citizen then can move to that EU country and exercise free movement rights?

If so, what EU country would you suggest for Pakistani nationals that has the least immigration of Pakistanis or South Asians?

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Re: NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by Wanderer » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:51 pm

Poland
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Re: NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by an0nym0us » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:04 pm

Wanderer wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:51 pm
Poland
Do you think there are chances of a Pakistani to get a visa there since Polish has been quite strict with immigration specially most recently due to refugees etc.
I did think of Poland but I doubt I can get a job there because of the language barrier.

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Re: NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by ALKB » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:23 am

an0nym0us wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:04 pm
Wanderer wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:51 pm
Poland
Do you think there are chances of a Pakistani to get a visa there since Polish has been quite strict with immigration specially most recently due to refugees etc.
I did think of Poland but I doubt I can get a job there because of the language barrier.
I think that suggestion was a bit tongue in cheek.

All of Eastern Europe has very little in ways of Pakistani/Indian/Middle Eastern/North African immigration and there are reasons for that.

I like Poland a lot; when I live in Germany, I am not that far from the Polish border and cultures are not all that different, half my extended family goes there for summer holidays. Nevertheless, it would not come to my mind to move there with my husband, who is originally from Pakistan.

In general, any non-English speaking European country will have only a small-ish Pakistani community (at least compared to the UK and apparently now Ireland), which does not mean that you won't encounter all sorts of subtle or not-so-subtle hostility. Big cities are usually okay, though.
I am not a regulated immigration advisor. I am offering an opinion and not advice.

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Re: NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by secret.simon » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:02 pm

an0nym0us wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:48 pm
what EU country would you suggest for Pakistani nationals that has the least immigration of Pakistanis or South Asians?
I think Wanderer was being facetious, based on the latter part of your question.

You may want to follow and see the posts of member BobtheMoggie, who is likewise attempting to have his parents join him in an EU country. He has looked at a fair few countries and even looked at working across borders (frontier workers) to trigger EU rights. His posts suggest that he has had issues with even continental European countries. I presume that even they may be unsure of the Brexit negotiations and hence dragging their feet.

Have you looked at Norway and Sweden? Norwegian-Pakistanis are well-represented in Norwegian politics, making up 10% of the Oslo City Council. A Norwegian-Pakistani politician Haque Nawaz Akhtar Chaudhry was a vice-president of the Norwegian Storting in the recent past. Were you to go down that route (of applying in Norway), perhaps you can ask him or his office to intervene in the matter if the UDI were to drag their feet on your application.
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Re: NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by Wanderer » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:26 am

OP asked which country has the least immigration of Pakistanis/South Asians, not which is most accommodating.

Poland probably fills that criteria.
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Re: NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by an0nym0us » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:29 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:02 pm
an0nym0us wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:48 pm
what EU country would you suggest for Pakistani nationals that has the least immigration of Pakistanis or South Asians?
I think Wanderer was being facetious, based on the latter part of your question.

You may want to follow and see the posts of member BobtheMoggie, who is likewise attempting to have his parents join him in an EU country. He has looked at a fair few countries and even looked at working across borders (frontier workers) to trigger EU rights. His posts suggest that he has had issues with even continental European countries. I presume that even they may be unsure of the Brexit negotiations and hence dragging their feet.

Have you looked at Norway and Sweden? Norwegian-Pakistanis are well-represented in Norwegian politics, making up 10% of the Oslo City Council. A Norwegian-Pakistani politician Haque Nawaz Akhtar Chaudhry was a vice-president of the Norwegian Storting in the recent past. Were you to go down that route (of applying in Norway), perhaps you can ask him or his office to intervene in the matter if the UDI were to drag their feet on your application.

I did think of Norway and Sweden and tried to get in touch with people that deal with such visas and found that specifically for Sweden that it can take way more than 6 months or even over 20 months for the authorities to get back and you cannot even complain about them to the EU authorities.

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Re: NON-EEA/EU visa in the EU before Brexit

Post by an0nym0us » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:30 pm

Wanderer wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:26 am
OP asked which country has the least immigration of Pakistanis/South Asians, not which is most accommodating.

Poland probably fills that criteria.
Yes but I obviously meant it in the context of higher chances of getting non-eea/eu visa and quickly also. Otherwise it would be pointless of me to go to Poland.

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