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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by hari.s » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:22 am

codem2013 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:07 am
hari.s wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:38 am
codem2013 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:33 am
hari.s wrote:
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A bit confused about this but would appreciate any help...

When doing NDRS+JCAP, what exactly are the photo requirements?

I know the referee doesnt need to countersign the form again but do I still need 2 photos for NDRS + 2 photos for JCAP with the referee certifying my likeness at the back of the passport photos?

Thanks,
Hari
check out this thread
british-citizenship/photographs-require ... 46875.html

I would go for 2 photos with name and DOB glued to both referee forms and another 2 for the passports...4 in total

I am not sure why but most NDRS council pages say "The photographs submitted with both applications must be identical"!!
Thanks. I already have 2 from each Referee and glued that to the referee declaration.

But what I am trying to figure out is if the other 2 for the passport application need to be signed at the back.
Would you know about this?
The council guy will certify them for you...it is the whole point of the appointment...so I wouldn't touch the 2 passport photos
as long as you have the photos with you, then it should be fine....you can always double double check when you call to book an appointment.
That's great - thank you.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by yagmur » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:03 pm

Ancestor wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:33 pm
The P60s etc. are only necessary if you are an EU application and your passport wasn't date stamped on entry to the UK, as proof of your residence. Employment is not a requirement for naturalisation.

The Online Checklist will not alter much (shouldn't at all) from what you see when you download a copy of the partially completed application form, is not extensive at all. You can fill in the 3rd step and proceed to step 4, from where you can/may still go back and edit your application. JUST DO NOT PROCEED PAST STEP 4 TO STEP 5 PAY AS YOU CANNOT GO BACK ONCE DOING SO.

When you go to Step 4 you will be able to download your referee forms in advance to get those sorted in advance.
Thank you very much for the answer!

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Manashah » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:47 pm

Hi. I am an EEA national and have got PR for me and for my 7 years old who born here in UK, my question is do I have to naturalized my son or I can apply British Passport Directly?
Thanks

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:55 pm

Manashah wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:47 pm
Hi. I am an EEA national and have got PR for me and for my 7 years old who born here in UK, my question is do I have to naturalized my son or I can apply British Passport Directly?
Thanks
If your son was born before you attained pr then the child is not British yet and you have to register him on form MN1 as British. Costs £1022 currently. Passport is separate to this.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Manashah » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:04 pm

Thank you for the reply, I also want to ask I have been convicted back in 2010 for driving without licence and insurance, got 3 points on my provisional and £200 fine. does that will effect my naturalization application?

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Re: British Citizenship - JCAP

Post by Snap2018 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:22 pm

Hi there,

Apologies if I should be creating a new thread for this question (just let me know if that is the case).

I am going to apply for JCAP in a few weeks' time. One of the qualifying criteria on the HO website states-

Applying for a British passport
You can apply for a British passport at the same time as submitting your documents through the nationality document return service. You can do this if:

your personal details match your identification and your citizenship passport application forms

My current passport (Indian) has an old address on it- a previous UK address (in a different city than I currently live in). I owned this place hence thought it would be easier to have that on the passport but I recently decided to sell the place and it is going to be off my name in couple of weeks' time.

The address I will be filling out on the passport application form will be the one where I live (Edinburgh). Now, since this won't match my passport, I'm wondering if this would cause issues and prevent my passport application from going through? Or does the above criteria from HO website mostly refer to name, title, etc.?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:54 pm

The personal details refers to your name, DOB etc and NOT an address etc.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Cioloprv » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:25 pm

Hi, I'm filling out online applications. And I have a problem with one question.

"How does the referee know the applicant"?

I know what to write, but I do not know what form !?
I mean:
1. Should I describe how and when I met the referee ?
OR
2. Should I describe his words how he met me ?!

So I have to write it as me or as my referee ?!?

I know that my referees have to sign it later.

I'm stuck on this question.
Thank you

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:33 pm

Cioloprv wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:25 pm
Hi, I'm filling out online applications. And I have a problem with one question.

"How does the referee know the applicant"?

I know what to write, but I do not know what form !?
I mean:
1. Should I describe how and when I met the referee ?
OR
2. Should I describe his words how he met me ?!

So I have to write it as me or as my referee ?!?

I know that my referees have to sign it later.

I'm stuck on this question.
Thank you
Your referee has to write how they now you, ie work colleague or family friend.

No description of how you met etc needed.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Manashah » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:02 pm

Hi all, my entry into UK was illegal back in 2003 and I get me status I.e. EEA Residence Document in 2013 but before I get my residency document I got caught by police while driving without licence and insurance in 2010 and got 3 points on my provisional and £200 fine. does that will effect my naturalization application? I have PR now and I am due for naturalisation? Please help!!

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by salsabeel » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:25 pm

Manashah wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:02 pm
Hi all, my entry into UK was illegal back in 2003 and I get me status I.e. EEA Residence Document in 2013 but before I get my residency document I got caught by police while driving without licence and insurance in 2010 and got 3 points on my provisional and £200 fine. does that will effect my naturalization application? I have PR now and I am due for naturalisation? Please help!! Nationality applications are concidered under UK LAW, also how longer u were living illigaly in country all effects under good charector or did u same day on arrival contect HO? please check immigration advisers too,Good luck
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Cioloprv » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:41 pm

Hi CR001

Thank you for you anwser .

But ....

It is ONLINE form not paper .

The paper version says that the referee has to fill it in, and it is not written in online.

I know that I need to fill this website online and print it. It must already be written: "How does the referee know the apliciant?" before my referee signs it, which means he agrees.

I understand that.

And how would you write it:
Here's the question:
"How does the referee know the apliciant?

And your answer is: "give me please example"

I'm asking because that's the question in the infinitive.

Or maybe enough: :D

Question:

"How does the referee know the apliciant?

Answer:

"GOOD" or "VERY GOOD" :D

I am sorry to find out so but I want to be sure that it will be ok

Thank you

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by salsabeel » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:58 pm

Cioloprv wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:41 pm
Hi CR001

Thank you for you anwser .

But ....

It is ONLINE form not paper . ( as ch001 said already( online form or paper form) refree page needs to fill by refrees, after submitting application and fee, u need to print this refree one pages for both refrees then get them in person to write ur name and sign

The paper version says that the referee has to fill it in, and it is not written in online.

I know that I need to fill this website online and print it. It must already be written: "How does the referee know the apliciant?" before my referee signs it, which means he agrees.

I understand that.

And how would you write it:
Here's the question:
"How does the referee know the apliciant? (in my case refrees put as a tenant i know .... more than 3 or 5 or what ever it apply to applicant

And your answer is: "give me please example"

I'm asking because that's the question in the infinitive.

Or maybe enough: :D

Question:

"How does the referee know the apliciant?

Answer:

"GOOD" or "VERY GOOD" :D

I am sorry to find out so but I want to be sure that it will be ok

Thank you
SALSABEEL

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Post by Cioloprv » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:16 pm

Thank you

I know everythink :D

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by salsabeel » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:20 pm

Cioloprv wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:41 pm
Hi CR001

Thank you for you anwser .

But ....

It is ONLINE form not paper .

The paper version says that the referee has to fill it in, and it is not written in online.

I know that I need to fill this website online and print it. It must already be written: "How does the referee know the apliciant?" before my referee signs it, which means he agrees.

I understand that.

And how would you write it:
Here's the question:
"How does the referee know the apliciant?

And your answer is: "give me please example"

I'm asking because that's the question in the infinitive.

Or maybe enough: :D

Question:

"How does the referee know the apliciant?

Answer:

"GOOD" or "VERY GOOD" :D

I am sorry to find out so but I want to be sure that it will be ok

Thank you
do my applogise ( for auto typing )before submitting application u need to print these pages
SALSABEEL

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Cioloprv » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:37 pm

Hi

Now I know that in the online question "How does the referee know the aplicant", I have to answer !.
And after printing sheets for referees
they must write how they know me.

I did not know that these are two different things despite the fact that it is one online application.



Thank you

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Ancestor » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:55 pm

Cioloprv wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:37 pm
Hi

Now I know that in the online question "How does the referee know the aplicant", I have to answer !.
And after printing sheets for referees
they must write how they know me.

I did not know that these are two different things despite the fact that it is one online application.



Thank you
No. You complete the information as requested online which asks as follows:-
Your first referee
Referees must:
• not be a relative, solicitor or agent of the applicant
• not be related to the other referee
• not be employed by the Home Office
• know or have known the applicant personally for more than 3 years
• they are willing to give full details of their knowledge of the applicant
• advise the Home Office of any reason why the applicant should not be registered
Referees must also not have been convicted of an imprisonable offence. A single non-custodial sentence may be disregarded if:
• it did not occur within the last 12 months
• there is strong evidence showing that the referee is of good character
Give your first referee's details. This referee must be the holder of a British Citizen passport (and either a professional person or over the age of 25)
First referee's title
First referee's given names
First referee's family name
Gender(Required)
Male
Female
Unspecified
First referee's date of birth(Required)
Enter date in the format DD MM YYYY

Address(Required)
Address (line 1 of 3)
Address (line 2 of 3 - optional)
Address (line 3 of 3 - optional)
Town/City
Postcode
Have they lived at this address for more than 3 years?(Required)
Yes
No
and then next question
Additional details for your first referee
What is their phone number?
What is their email address?
What is their profession?
Does your referee have a British passport?(Required)
Yes
No
What is their passport number?
How does the referee know the applicant?
and this information is submitted electronically ONLY WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY SUBMIT AND PAY FOR YOUR APPLICATION when you ready to do so.

The Referee Forms you print out have NONE of the information you submit on them, and each Referee need complete your full name on page 1 and then complete their full name, signature and date on page 2 once you have attached your photo to each.

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Post by Luciano_r31 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:05 pm

Hey everyone,
I am just about to submit my AN application online but i am a bit scared,
Basically i am an EEA familly member
1-Got married 08/05/2012
2-Eea family member residence card
(5 years)31/10/2013
3-National insurance number 23/11/2013
4-Started working 15/03/2014 (still working there )
5-got my BRP 08/02/2018
6-acquired PR on 08/05/2017
Now i am entitled to apply for british citizenship (since 08/05/2018) but how can i proof 5 years of continuous residence?
1-i am working since 15/03/2018 so if i submit my application now there would be a gap of 5 months (15/11/2013 to 15/03/2014)
1-i ve got stamps on my passport (my country immigration stamps), i ve been away 5 times only (150 days in total)
So can i apply now or should i wait until 03/2019 so i finish 5 years at work!!
Thank you guys looking forward to your answers

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Snap2018 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:26 am

Hi all,

Another couple of questions on the AN form-

1. Employment history- I am applying through 5 years stay + 1 year ILR route, do I just enter the proper jobs done or any part time jobs when I was at uni too on student visa?

2. Date of first entry in the UK- this is pretty self-explanatory until I looked at the guidance notes which state- "Enter the day you first arrived with a view to staying in the UK on a long-term basis...". I first came as a student with a view to do my 4 hear bachelor's degree. Is that the right date to enter?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:23 pm

Snap2018 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:26 am
Hi all,

Another couple of questions on the AN form-

1. Employment history- I am applying through 5 years stay + 1 year ILR route, do I just enter the proper jobs done or any part time jobs when I was at uni too on student visa?

2. Date of first entry in the UK- this is pretty self-explanatory until I looked at the guidance notes which state- "Enter the day you first arrived with a view to staying in the UK on a long-term basis...". I first came as a student with a view to do my 4 hear bachelor's degree. Is that the right date to enter?

Thanks for your help.
1. You need to state ALL employment for the last 10 years as the form asks.

2. First date of entry.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by yinks » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:02 am

Hi, I need some advice.
here is my current situation.
I am enstranged from my mum(she sent me to my dad when i was 9), then i am now enstraged from my dad as he was not my biological dad after DNA testing requested by the home office but he helped me apply for my ILR which i got in 2014.

When filling out the online form, what do i write when i dont know exact dates, but i know the months?
Also i only have my current passport which i got in october 2014. since i am required to prove that i have been here for the last 5 years and i plan on sending the application in january, will a letter from my 6th form be good enough to cover the missing dates.
(6th form was from sept 2013-july 2015)and i have payslips from my first jobs in september 2014 onwards).

Also when filling in previous address, do i need to my university accomodation address then when i moved back home and then when i moved back to uni again, because each address is different so i.e
Uni-09/15-06/16
Home-06/16-09/16
Uni-09/16-06/17 etc

Much Appreciated

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by kautya » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:22 pm

Hi,

Does anyone one know what the following question refers to:

Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Does it mean any members on dependant visa (i.e my wife) or dependants, as in children ? I initially answered this as no assuming it was referring to children but wondering if I should enter my wifes details as she is on PBS dependent visa.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by avatar16 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:25 am

Good morning all ;
just question regarding the Online application, what documents need to be sent as proof of residency for the last 5 years? they motioned that the bank statement and Bills are no longer useful as a proof of residency for this application. should i use only my P60s and payslips or should i send the old passport with the current one to show the stamps for any travel i did during the past 5 years?

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Post by hadess0987) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:46 pm

avatar16 wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:25 am
Good morning all ;
just question regarding the Online application, what documents need to be sent as proof of residency for the last 5 years? they motioned that the bank statement and Bills are no longer useful as a proof of residency for this application. should i use only my P60s and payslips or should i send the old passport with the current one to show the stamps for any travel i did during the past 5 years?

both send both of them cuz you've two option and if they are not satisfied with one then the other one will work if that makes any sense

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by avatar16 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:57 am

hadess0987) wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:46 pm
avatar16 wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:25 am
Good morning all ;
just question regarding the Online application, what documents need to be sent as proof of residency for the last 5 years? they motioned that the bank statement and Bills are no longer useful as a proof of residency for this application. should i use only my P60s and payslips or should i send the old passport with the current one to show the stamps for any travel i did during the past 5 years?

both send both of them cuz you've two option and if they are not satisfied with one then the other one will work if that makes any sense
yes is true but will cost extra fees to pay for special delivery

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