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Best way forward?

Post by pickled » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:18 am

Hi Helpful People,

I apologise if I have posted in a wrong section.

Need some advice for a friend's family. It is a long one, So please bear with.

My friends family had come to UK in 2003 (Parents, 3 children aged 18, 15 and 12 - at the time) on a visit visa.
Eldest left the UK - on his own accord a few years later.
15 Year old left and made her own life - is a settled British Citizen now 28.
12 year old got out of the mad house at 18/19 and is in relationship with a British national for quiet some years. *

The Gentleman (husband) tried to put every case under the sun to get legalised - he must have a huge history with home office - all rejected because he would apply for bogus cases with bogus lawyers often signing on his wife's and little child's behalf. Since 2005 to 2013 -all failed. They 3 used to go report at the police station.

One fine day on advice of his friends (who had done sham marriages) he decided to abandon his wife and go with an eu national (Lithuanian) and since then he has applied on basis of having a relationship with an eu national. He was reported for committing or wanting to commit a sham marriage for the sake of documents. However the police could not help because he actually had not got married to her at that point (if that makes sense- the crime was not committed at that stage they were only classed as cohabiting). They started living together and taking pictures to show a genuine relationship. The Judge denied in 2013 because they could not even communicate in one language. Please bear in mind him and his family is from Pakistan a Muslim and the eu national is an alcohol dependant. However they still carried on.. he got a house contract on their names and shared finances because that was what court requested going ahead.

The husband has always said as soon as he gets the documents he will leave her (eu) and get back with the wife so she is just meant to shut up and lie low. She is a simple woman who was not allowed to leave the house and suddenly abandoned. She still reports at a police station and has reported all this to the police since 2013 however there has been no consequences on him. The lady had case of collapsed kidney and had to be revived in 2014 and since then has been sofa surfing and the daughter has been helping as much as she could.

The family has now discovered that he has officially got married in UK, they managed to get a copy of his marriage certificate which shows that his previous marriage has been dissolved and upon questioning the registrar they said the gentleman provided some verified (bogus) documents from Pakistan. The woman is completely unaware of this divorce and he has not breathed a word (to his extended family even), in fact according to him its a lie, he has not divorced anyone and she is still his wife.

Anyways Since then he has been granted Spousal visa (not sure what has he got but we know he is planning to make a trip to his home land, Pakistan for 20 days - because he misses his family) and is now trying to trace back his original wife and take her back home as if it was a series of tom and jerry ( logic is - they tease each other but still become friends at the end of the 10mins). He wants to take his previous wife back home and leave her there as she does not have any documents she will not be able to come back. He maybe does not want her to apply for herself any time soon because it may jeopardize his case and divorce matter may come to light - which they do not know anything about. According to the x woman she is still married and because she is so simple she thinks her husband is thinking of her best interest and taking her back in order to reconcile their marriage and he may have made such a document in order to prove what he has to prove to Home office and actually means nothing (she thinks!). The 2 children in UK are completely against her going back because they would not be able to look after (medically/mentally/physically)or protect her in a country they do not reside in. It will be a case of daughter and son's families moving to Pakistan - which is not feasible.

I am not sure what they can do for their Mother. I am not sure what can be the consequences on the man -if any.

The son -- *He has been in a steady relationship with a British Citizen (not married) and has 2 children of his own (5 & 2years old) - he has recently applied for his paper work based on his children and has got the 10 year route to parenting (If that is a thing!) He works and lives out - he is still trying to get a good enough job that will support his family and his fiancée will no longer need benefits.

Daughter is only JUST settling down with a job - house of her own etc. She seems like the only family that maybe able to lift her mother out of this situatiom. I am not sure what to advise them, what route to take and what is best for their mother.

Their mom is now 56 years old, has partial sight remaining and in not general good health. She has been on antidepressants on and off to relieve herself from the pain of the fraud by her own husband. She has not seen or known anything better apart from the person she was married to, she is a bit lost. What is her options? Sad situation. :cry:

If anyone can give any advise it will be great. I am sorry for a long story, Thanks for reading.
Please feel free to ask if something is not very clear or informative.

Much appreciated,
Pickled :|

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