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non EEA PR - requirement for private insurance?

Post by soloblue » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:53 pm

Hello,

I would like to ask the following question - could not see if someone else had posted it alrUK residency eady:

- I am Italian citizen (EEA) with Permanent UK residency, obtained in April 2016 however received the blue card in March 2017
- my husband is non -EEA and has a Residence card - which expires in March 2018
- we live in the UK together for 5 years and we are married for 5 years now thus we would like to apply for PR for him.
- my husband does not have a job

Could you please advise if he requires to have private insurance in order to satisfy the new rules for PR?
I do not think it does but I am not able to find anywhere a confirmation of it.

Should his PR be rejected for whatever reason, does anybody know if he would be at least given another 5 year residence card?

With many thanks,

Emanuela

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Re: non EEA PR - requirement for private insurance?

Post by Richard W » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:29 pm

He will qualify for PR simply on the basis of being married to you and living in the UK for a continuous period of 5 years while you had permanent residence or were a 'qualified person'. (I expect he has already qualified.) He would have needed CSI only when you needed CSI. If you qualified for PR only by being a worker, then as you have a DCPR, the evidence required should mostly be straightforward. The most difficult part might be showing that he was resident in the UK.

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Re: non EEA PR - requirement for private insurance?

Post by soloblue » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:59 pm

Hello

Thank you for the response.
Could you please clarify what you mean with "I expect he has already qualified"?
If you meant that I have qualified, yes, as I have a PR and I did not need CSI.

Could you please also explain why it might be difficult to prove that he is in UK? He has his passport fully stamped showing when he entered the UK again - plus we are going to provide some evidence of address etc.
Is that because he is not working that it could be difficult to prove he is in UK? We are in a genuine relationship and we are living together at the same location - we will provide evidence of that as well.

Any tips on making the application convincing would be appreciated.

With thanks
Emanuela

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Re: non EEA PR - requirement for private insurance?

Post by Richard W » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:36 pm

soloblue wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:59 pm
Could you please clarify what you mean with "I expect he has already qualified"?
He obtains PR on the 5th anniversary of living with you in the UK as your husband. As he received the residence card in March 2013, I expect that that anniversary has already passed.
soloblue wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:59 pm
If you meant that I have qualified, yes, as I have a PR and I did not need CSI.
I cannot easily advise on what evidence is required, but your having PR without any need for CSI shows that your husband, if he was residing in the UK at the time, was the family member of a qualified person and did not himself need CSI to reside. Demonstrating this ought to be easy, but I am not certain that the HO will not ask for unnecessary evidence.
soloblue wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:59 pm
Could you please also explain why it might be difficult to prove that he is in UK? He has his passport fully stamped showing when he entered the UK again - plus we are going to provide some evidence of address etc.
Is that because he is not working that it could be difficult to prove he is in UK? We are in a genuine relationship and we are living together at the same location - we will provide evidence of that as well.
I said 'most difficult', which is equivalent to 'least easy'. You are having to think how to demonstrate his presence in the UK. When he used his residence card to enter the UK, his passport should not have been stamped.

His name on a utility bill is supposed to demonstrate residence. Having had my wife's name added to utility bills for that purpose, I have to say I do not find having both names on a utility bill convincing. All it really demonstrates is that the person resident at the address and paying the bill wants the other person to appear to be resident.

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Re: non EEA PR - requirement for private insurance?

Post by soloblue » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:07 pm

I understand - indeed adding someone to a bill is not necessarily convincing - we only have a bank account on both names - for the rest we will need to come up with something else.
I think also demonstrating the relationship is important as people can be married but plan to divorce just after the PR is obtained...so I want to show we are still in a genuine relationship.

His passport was stamped every time he entered and left another country - you are right - however at least this would prove his travel dates.

Many thanks for the response!
Emanuela

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