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Dual citizen proof of identity

Post by ariskar » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:38 pm

Is a dual/multiple citizen applying for naturalization is required to provide:

[*]1 form of ID(EEA)/passport(EEA/overseas) from any of his/her nationality
[*]1 form of ID(EEA)/passport(EEA/overseas) from the nationality on which his/her ILR/PR is based
[*]1 form of ID(EEA)/passport(EEA/overseas) from each of his/her nationalities (resulting in 2 or more forms of ID submitted)

In form AN 1.9, it is quoted in singular:

Code: Select all

"Your present nationality:"
Mentioning only one of the two/multiple nationalities (per form wording), is that considered concealment of material fact, if it is not affecting the eligibility criteria / residency status history?

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Re: Dual citizen proof of identity

Post by ariskar » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:48 pm

Guide AN also quotes in singular:
1.9 Enter your present nationality. If you are recognised as stateless then insert
“Stateless”.
Evidence of Nationality
• Your valid passport or valid EEA national identity card as evidence of your
nationality
Both guidance notes are formulated in "singular", as is the application "form AN" which would point to a single form of ID, per the general requirement.

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Re: Dual citizen proof of identity

Post by randomperson » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:17 am

I was advised, and this was accepted by NCS, to put all nationalities, and provide the passports covering all those nationalities. I'm an EU and non-EU national and have lived in the UK as an EU national, but I still list the other as it's a fact about me that they ask about.

Likewise, my previous marriage does not impact anything about my application - but I did still have to include it.

I think that the reason they say "nationality", singular, is because those of us applying that are already dual nationals are in the minority of applicants. For most people, their British nationality will be their second citizenship, not third-fourth-fifth whatever.

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Re: Dual citizen proof of identity

Post by rely1458 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:14 pm

It doesn't really matter in the end. Technically I was a dual national, EU and NON-EU, but I never held a passport for the NON-EU country (where I was born) so I didn't mention it. Now I have three nationalities. Plus my legal status in the UK before becoming a citizen was thanks to my EU nationality, and my application was worked on based on that.

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Re: Dual citizen proof of identity

Post by ariskar » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:31 pm

randomperson wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:17 am
I was advised, and this was accepted by NCS, to put all nationalities, and provide the passports covering all those nationalities. I'm an EU and non-EU national and have lived in the UK as an EU national, but I still list the other as it's a fact about me that they ask about.

Likewise, my previous marriage does not impact anything about my application - but I did still have to include it.

I think that the reason they say "nationality", singular, is because those of us applying that are already dual nationals are in the minority of applicants. For most people, their British nationality will be their second citizenship, not third-fourth-fifth whatever.
Thank you. I understand your point of view, however the question is if it is binding to inform HO of a second-third-etc. nationality that is irrelevant to your immigration history in the UK, when applying for naturalisation. There is no such express requirement in the form AN/guidance note/booklet AN and all hints point to declaring only one existing nationality.

However, some dual/multiple EU citizens applying for naturalisation may have occasionally used different nationality id/passport documents to enter and exit the country (as they are lawfully allowed to). In that case it may be very difficult for HO to calculate presence and absences, particularly if there is a different alphabet or name/place of birth/etc. spelling between different passports/nationalities, often derived from transliteration of a different alphabet (Skandinavian/Bulgarian/Greek/Hungarian/etc.).
rely1458 wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:14 pm
It doesn't really matter in the end. Technically I was a dual national, EU and NON-EU, but I never held a passport for the NON-EU country (where I was born) so I didn't mention it. Now I have three nationalities. Plus my legal status in the UK before becoming a citizen was thanks to my EU nationality, and my application was worked on based on that.
Good to hear it didn't matter.

In this case, if I was an EU and non-EU citizen travelling from UK to my non-EU country of nationality, I would provide my non-EU nationality travel document (not your case) API details and show that to the airline (obvious for no visa requirements). When returning to UK I would provide them with the EU passport/ID API for (again) avoiding airline visa check... This way HO would have a skewed travel history record, as per the above...

The aforementioned could either help mask absences or create fictive long absences and issues to naturalisation applicants.

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Re: Dual citizen proof of identity

Post by ariskar » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:34 am

I guess I am self-answering here: My naturalisation application was approved yesterday. :D

I am a dual EU citizen and applied mentioning only one of my EU nationalities in the form AN, also providing only one of my ID's related to that nationality. My NINo and EEA(PR) prerequisites were all bestowed/acquired using that nationality credentials/ID.

I have not been asked to provide proof of my second (EU) nationality and additional forms of ID associated with it, despite having mentioned it in the EEA(PR) form (didn't provide second nationality documents then either). I am soon to become a triple citizen.

I hope this is useful for other members in similar situation (multiple citizens naturalising/registering as BC).

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