Flrfp refused

[Ali021]

Hi. I applied for flrfp application and home office refused that..i have 3 year old son and my ex is English..home office asked me proof of my son's nationality, either my son passport or my ex passport or my ex parents passport for proof of nationality...i asked her and she refused to help me and explained to home office that I tried but she is not helping me at all..but home office refused my application with right of appeal.. do any body know how to deal with this issue..becouse in appeal judge gonna ask me same thing proof my my son's nationality...
Plz it will b really help full if any body know how to deal with this issue
Thank u

[Obie]

You can apply for confirmation of British nationality or apply for a summon, so she can come to the tribunal to give evidence.

With the birth Certificate, Home office ought to have assisted.

[Ali021]

You can apply for confirmation of British nationality or apply for a summon, so she can come to the tribunal to give evidence.

With the birth Certificate, Home office ought to have assisted.

Obie I don't her to come to court coz if she come, I know she gonna say he is doing all this for visa which is not true..i love my son alot he is my life, 1 year and 4 month I have fight for my son contact, she toke my son away exter without informing me..really hardly I got contact and immigration messing

[Obie]

The court paper will provide details of your son which you can surely use.

What is the position with the family court?

[Ali021]

Obie I got child independent contact. Now just final hearing left regarding take my son out of country for holiday in school holidays. But any of court oder there is no were written that my son is British citizen.

[Obie]

There are procedures you undertake to establish a child's nationality, and one is to apply for a proof of nationality, and i believe that at the birth registration, those information would have been requested and provided.

What is the mother's nationality, is she a british citizen or an EEA national.

I believe those representing you in the family law matters or the immigration matters should have been able to help you establish this.

[Ali021]

Hi obie, hope u ok . So obie what have to do and which procedures you are talking about to undertake to establish a child's nationality. Do i have to ask in court...my court date is after 2 months and I have to appeal in 14 days mean before 13th of this month...plz guide me how to manage that..thanks u so much for your help

[graceofgod1]

** confrontation of british nationality status -form NS

[Ali021]

Are they gonna gimme my son's or my ex's proof of nationality coz I just been this site that from is for oun proof of nationality..there is no where written some one else nationality

[New on forum]

Hi. I applied for flrfp application and home office refused that..i have 3 year old son and my ex is English..home office asked me proof of my son's nationality, either my son passport or my ex passport or my ex parents passport for proof of nationality...i asked her and she refused to help me and explained to home office that I tried but she is not helping me at all..but home office refused my application with right of appeal.. do any body know how to deal with this issue..becouse in appeal judge gonna ask me same thing proof my my son's nationality...
Plz it will b really help full if any body know how to deal with this issue
Thank u

Any body born in the uk before 1983 is British citizen.
If you wife was born before 1983 then order her birth certificate and your son birth certificate.
If she was born after 1983 then get the birth certificate for your son , your ex wife And her mother.
It will establish the nationality.
I am assuming they were All born in the uk.

[Ali021]

No she born in 1989..thats wat I m saying I tried she is not helping me at all..she is not giving me her birth certificate or any thing..and i can't get her birth certificate from any where birth certificate office without her sign..stuck really badly I prove every thing to home office my son's birth certificate..but I think they just want to rid people... law made for facilitate humans but here every thing different...they just trying rid a dad from son and son from dad...i will fight till end of my life.. even animal react when it's it's matter of kids I m a human...any way guys I need your support and guidance
Thanks for your

[Obie]

I believe Home Office should have assisted. I do not know why they acted in this way, to suppress the court order.

I have made 3 previous applications where in 2 mother refused to give the passport, and 1 it was the father, and in all of them, the Home Office appreciated the difficulties and grant without the passport. I am a little puzzled as to why they were harsh in your case.

Did your solicitor state the difficulties as ask them to check from mother's record on whether she has been issued a passport before?

To get copies of her birth certificate, you will need to know the full name of her parents, the year she was born, and what hospital she was born at. There is no requirement for her signature.

[Ali021]

Hi obie. Hope u ok .ya my solicitor send them mail that she is not supporting at al regarding passport or birth certificate..they made few more issue in applications but I can prove them in court like they said didn't send prove of contact with child( which I sent them pictures, moms letter that I have contact with my son) but they were asking tickets and hotel booking where he stay with me over night. May b they making trouble it's just coz of i m over stayed my visa is finished 2014..but still every one love their kids..if I m immigrant it's not mean I don't care of my son...and obie I just know her dad's first name. My ex full name..i naver met her mom coz she left them when she was little.

[Ali021]

What u guys think what court gonna do...are they gonna sort out that proof of nationality or still in court I have to proof her or my sons nationality? Are gonna b little help full or they gonna b same harsh like home office? I don't want to lose my coz I know once I will go back I will naver se him again and even I will come back after 5 or 10 year it will b really hard to build up the relation.right now he love me alot when ever he is with me he is happiest kid ever and he don't let me go when I drop him back home.

[New on forum]

No she born in 1989..thats wat I m saying I tried she is not helping me at all..she is not giving me her birth certificate or any thing..and i can't get her birth certificate from any where birth certificate office without her sign..stuck really badly I prove every thing to home office my son's birth certificate..but I think they just want to rid people... law made for facilitate humans but here every thing different...they just trying rid a dad from son and son from dad...i will fight till end of my life.. even animal react when it's it's matter of kids I m a human...any way guys I need your support and guidance
Thanks for your

You didn’t read my post properly.
If your ex was born in 1989 then her mom was definitely born before 1983 and if she was born in the uk then all you need is birth certificates for your child and child mom and grandma.
I have recently done this and it was accepted my wife never had a British passport but we proved it with birth certificates.
As obei already advised any body can get anyone’s birth certificate.

[Ali021]

Ya brother that's what I m saying..i just been to birth certificate web site they asking me her dad name, sar name, mom name, her last name and maiden name. I just know her dad first name coz we naver use her dad full name and In my life I naver met with her mom so I even don't know her name....so how I fill the form and oder her birth certificate...if I get her birth certificate my problem is solve...but I don't have detail and now we are separated so she not gonna give me any detail..

[New on forum]

Ya brother that's what I m saying..i just been to birth certificate web site they asking me her dad name, sar name, mom name, her last name and maiden name. I just know her dad first name coz we naver use her dad full name and In my life I naver met with her mom so I even don't know her name....so how I fill the form and oder her birth certificate...if I get her birth certificate my problem is solve...but I don't have detail and now we are separated so she not gonna give me any detail..

I feel sorry about what you are going through and can completely understand your pain but don’t panic it will be ok in the end.
A lot of people go through the same or worse.
If you know the fathers first name then surname is likely to be same as your wife.
If you go into registrar general Office they can try to search even if you don’t know full details.
Try getting your ex fathers marriage certificate that should have details of both her parents and address at the time.

[Obie]

As obei already advised any body can get anyone’s birth certificate.

No I did not say so. Please do not misquote or misrepresent me to give the impression that I am advising people to engage in criminal conduct.

I only state the requirements for getting a duplicate birth certificate, I did not say anybody can get anybody's birth certificate.

I take exception to people wrongly misrepresenting and misquoting what I say.

[New on forum]

As obei already advised any body can get anyone’s birth certificate.

No I did not say so. Please do not misquote or misrepresent me to give the impression that I am advising people to engage in criminal conduct.

I only state the requirements for getting a duplicate birth certificate, I did not say anybody can get anybody's birth certificate.

I take exception to people wrongly misrepresenting and misquoting what I say.

My mistake if you didn’t mean that.
That’s what I believed is the case with births and marriages records.
But is it not a public record ?

[Ali021]

Ya brother that's what I m saying..i just been to birth certificate web site they asking me her dad name, sar name, mom name, her last name and maiden name. I just know her dad first name coz we naver use her dad full name and In my life I naver met with her mom so I even don't know her name....so how I fill the form and oder her birth certificate...if I get her birth certificate my problem is solve...but I don't have detail and now we are separated so she not gonna give me any detail..

I feel sorry about what you are going through and can completely understand your pain but don’t panic it will be ok in the end.
A lot of people go through the same or worse.
If you know the fathers first name then surname is likely to be same as your wife.
If you go into registrar general Office they can try to search even if you don’t know full details.
Try getting your ex fathers marriage certificate that should have details of both her parents and address at the time.

Thank u so much brother...i just try to spoke with my mp and soon get appointment and they gonna send letter to home office lets se what gonna happen.

[Ali021]

As obei already advised any body can get anyone’s birth certificate.

No I did not say so. Please do not misquote or misrepresent me to give the impression that I am advising people to engage in criminal conduct.

I only state the requirements for getting a duplicate birth certificate, I did not say anybody can get anybody's birth certificate.

I take exception to people wrongly misrepresenting and misquoting what I say.

My mistake if you didn’t mean that.
That’s what I believed is the case with births and marriages records.
But is it not a public record ?

Obie I know u just trying to help me come out From this problem...u didn't mean to guide me to do any illegal activity...obie I tried to contact my mp do u think she can help me coz her office people was saying if u bring your refusal letter she will write a letter to them