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Not being aware of the changes in immigration rules is not a reason for reconsideration and it won't fly.Omega17 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:46 pmCan Amber or anyone please advice me if I can apply for reconsideration in my post above.
I wasn’t aware they had changed the Good character policy and far as I understand I am eligible to apply since 2015.
The other thing is the case worker picked on my reporting date that I missed even though they were aware of my circumstances and that I was working without a visa. I am worried that if I apply again next year they will pick on one these again and refuse my application.
I am thinking if I ask for a reconsideration based on the fact that all these things were out of my control.
Am really stressed, please advise me.
If u have enough money then i suggest u should apply again with the covering letter explaining everything. Im saying this because of my personal experience almost everyone told me that i wont get the ILR but i still applied it took 1 and a half years but in the end i got the ILR. So where there is a will their is a way. Here we can only give u a advice end of the day its ur decesion as u know ur situation better then anyone. If i was at ur place i would have give it another go i would not wait until 2025Omega17 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:53 amHi casa or anyone
I applied in November 2017 and got a refusal in April 2018 stating that I was an absconder as I failed to report in 2006. The letter also state that I came back to them in 2009 and Start reporting again in April 2009 so I should reapply in April 2019, and an application is likely to refuse before that time.
I was in an abusive relationship and had fled domestic violence but can’t remember of this date that they are talking about but I have accepted it. Also I have been suffering from anxiety and depression for years now amongst other medical problems which everything was presented in my application before I was given ILR in March 2010 outside the immigration rule.
The letter also state if I feel the decision is wrong I should ask for reconsideration.
For over 15 years I have worked while my I’ll health got worst and I am on medications and disability allowance since 2016, but I am trying to get back into work as I am in therapy as well.
Do I have any grounds to ask for reconsideration?
Someone please reply.
Thank you.
Yes, this is your topic.
Citizenship has a different set of rules from ILR and decided by a completely different department. It is much more strict with more tightly defined and rigidly applied guidelines.Hassan7861 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:53 amIf u have enough money then i suggest u should apply again with the covering letter explaining everything. Im saying this because of my personal experience almost everyone told me that i wont get the ILR but i still applied it took 1 and a half years but in the end i got the ILR.
You are absolutely right . But like every other case in british citizenship secertary of state have discreation which they can use if they want to.ouflak1 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 1:01 pmCitizenship has a different set of rules from ILR and decided by a completely different department. It is much more strict with more tightly defined and rigidly applied guidelines.Hassan7861 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:53 amIf u have enough money then i suggest u should apply again with the covering letter explaining everything. Im saying this because of my personal experience almost everyone told me that i wont get the ILR but i still applied it took 1 and a half years but in the end i got the ILR.
That isn't really the point of citizenship, no. All of that stuff is what visas and the like are for.Omega17 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:45 pmThanks for your reply outflak1
Thanks for your reply Hassan7861,
Do you know of any descretion policy for naturalisation regarding victims of domestic violence, asylum seeker that missed their reporting date which is out of their control or mental/ disability?
Omega17 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:22 amHi Hstepper07,
Thank for your reply.
During the time when my mental health started I was unaware of what help I could get ( therapy or medications) especially because I did not have a visa and didn’t know anyone that could assist me in time.
But I remember going to the doctors on several occasions and telling them about my problems, especially when my expartner abused me in 2005 and I lost the baby I was also reporting then and I did informed the immigration but I feel no one really cared about my suffering. My ex threatened to go to the police and tell a bunch of lies on me so he can have me thrown out of the country, when I lost the baby and he started beating me and saying I killed his first child. I was scared and didn’t know my rights, but I had to go to the doctors because I was bleeding heavily and told him about the incident. I can’t remember everything that happened after that.
I went to the surgery and ask for a record of my medical history from 2000 but they are trying to say they don’t have it that far back on the new surgery system if the other surgeries did not send my records over, but they will check further. So am now waiting for their reply.
Home Office and immigration are aware of my abuse as I remember going to court to plea my case for asylum but later refused, but keep granting me appeal until it was exhaust.
I was illegal from 2001 July 31 until March 5th 2010 when they gave me ILR. They were already informed that I worked illegally has I submitted my payslips, paid taxes, College and university degree. My solicitor at that time encouraged me to give them everything and recommendations on my Good character from people I have made associates with during that time.
All these evidence including the reason why I missed my reporting date was brought before them and so they ask me to start reporting again every week in April 2009 up until March 2010 when they grant me ILR. On my ILR states that “This leave has been granted exceptionally, outside the Immigration Rules.i
I don’t understand and why are they asking me to relive my horrible past experiences?
I am on medication for mental illness, medical and counselling. I have two kids one 17 and the other 3 that has just been diagnosed with autism. My husband who is on a spouse visa and he walked out and left me. A solicitor did advices me that on the naturalisation form that I am unaware of my husband’s address and I did. Am I been punished? I don’t have any luck with men they always take advantage of me, and am in counselling for it now.
I have been through a lot of abuse and it’s too graphic to say on here.
I hope I answered all your questions.
Please reply.
Asylum seekers have historically been given some extra leeway (not a lot) if there was no deception involved, they entered the country legally, and the time between their entry and their claim to asylum was small (preferrably immediately on entry, but within 3 months seems to be acceptable). In those cases where an applicant successfully got asylum, some amount of illegal residence may be disregarded (again usually a small amount).Omega17 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:56 pmHi ouflak1,
Even though I haven’t got a clue what you’re trying to say I thank you replying.
I ask the question because I’ve seen where someone been an asylum seeker got ILR and later was refused Naturalisation because they were illegal and one of the moderators on here wrote a letter for that someone referencing policy on asylum seeker and they responded they were granted with naturalisation after submitting that letter.
So I wanted to find where to get the asylum policy or guidance and so on....
I thank you
64 wrote:There is a third reason. An individual's legitimate expectation is normally that his application will be dealt with in accordance with the policy applicable at the time that the decision is taken. If the claimant is to displace that, and have a different legitimate expectation, then in my judgment, as a minimum, the claimant would have had to see and known of that document said to give rise to that expectation, otherwise his only legitimate expectation would be that he would be dealt with in accordance with whatever policy was in force at the time of the decision of his application.