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According to employment I’m wondering if I could use new employees who started working in 2017 before my first application but they could not meet the requirements by September 2017 as a year of full time work but in new application it would be more than neededmarcnath wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 9:05 pmUnfortunately, you appear to have not read the guidelines and documents required.
Since you did not submit the unaudited accounts, your investment will not be given points.
You can't add additional evidence in the AR process, so you are left with no option but to do a new application. You can submit an AR to give you more time to prepare the fresh application.
2. Engagement in business - make sure you submit the Current Appointment Record (CAR).
3. The employment requirement is that there should be a net increase of two jobs after you joined the business. Hopefully you have that. Otherwise, this is something that you need to try and challenge in an AR to see if it can be accepted.
The requirement is that there should be an increase of two jobs.Vechnii wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 9:25 pmAccording to employment I’m wondering if I could use new employees who started working in 2017 before my first application but they could not meet the requirements by September 2017 as a year of full time work but in new application it would be more than neededmarcnath wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 9:05 pmUnfortunately, you appear to have not read the guidelines and documents required.
Since you did not submit the unaudited accounts, your investment will not be given points.
You can't add additional evidence in the AR process, so you are left with no option but to do a new application. You can submit an AR to give you more time to prepare the fresh application.
2. Engagement in business - make sure you submit the Current Appointment Record (CAR).
3. The employment requirement is that there should be a net increase of two jobs after you joined the business. Hopefully you have that. Otherwise, this is something that you need to try and challenge in an AR to see if it can be accepted.
I’ve go workers joined business in February 2017 so by February 2018 they are working 1 year
Or it should be 1 year before my first application?
Investment - did you not submit unaudited accounts ?Vechnii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:24 pmContinue to my story:
Prepared all the documents till the last day of legal stay and applied on super premium by the end of May .
Bio on 7 of June in solicitors office
Letter from HO with old docs on 12 of June
Refuse on second application 26.06.2018
Reason:
1.No points given for investments
Bank statement from company given
Personal bank statement given
Direct transfer can be easily seen on both of them
2.job creation 0 points
3 jobs shown
2 part time accepted
1 full time not accepted
Due to their calculations person worked full 130 hours some months and 112 hours another
Totally 9 monthes accepted
But I gave them 15 monthes in total and last monthes missing
Salary counted per year shows 52 weeks with salary 7.95
32 hours per week mentioned in accountants letter
Payslips proving that.
Even though not counted
Applying for Admin Review
So what exactly was the reason for refusal of investment points ? It would be useful if you had the actual text here.Vechnii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:53 pmUnaudited accounts submitted showing investment and in the letter it said they got it
Another question is 115k was accepted in initial application and 1 extension (its clearly said in refusal) even though I gave them all sufficient info in fresh application and they did not accept investments at all.
Yes, you can explain that. You should have done that in a separate letter or your cover letter but it can still be done now.
no 2 employers one 6 months one 8 months accepted as one full time job they were on the same position one left another one came on that position
You should definitely go for AR to explain the late payments and that the employee worked full time for a minimum of 12 months.
yes the first one was rejected in may 2018sm12 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:47 pmYou should definitely go for AR to explain the late payments and that the employee worked full time for a minimum of 12 months.
And make the evidential flexibility argument for the investment issue, and that investment was shown in the other accounts submitted.
Is this your second application for extension?
Since your first application was refused and this was your second application, you cannot submit a third application - that will be rejected outright without any other consideration. I have absolutely no idea how the solicitor is advising you to apply again.
Thank You very much marcnath for your help in my unaudited account clearly shown on the second page that i have XXXX amount of shares and on page 11 called Notes to financial statement for the period 1 August 2013 to 31 December 2014 its said :marcnath wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:11 pmSince your first application was refused and this was your second application, you cannot submit a third application - that will be rejected outright without any other consideration. I have absolutely no idea how the solicitor is advising you to apply again.
So, your only option is to go for AR.
It appears that you have submitted the unaudited accounts but the accounts does not mention your name against the shares you hold. I assume that information is available in the CS01 confirmation statement that you submitted.
If so, you can argue that evidential flexibility based on 245AA (d)(iii)(1) should have been exercised to ask for the document or grant the application.
(d) If the applicant has submitted a specified document:
(i) ........; or
(ii) .............; or
(iii) which does not contain all of the specified information, but the missing information is verifiable from:
(1) other documents submitted with the application; or
(2) .....
(3) .....
the decision maker may request the correct document under sub-paragraph (b), or may grant the application despite the error or omission, if satisfied that the specified documents are genuine and the applicant meets all the other requirements of the Rules.
There is no guarantee it will be accepted but I think you have a good chance.
On the job creation, without having all the actual numbers it is difficult for me to say.
But if it is just underpayment in certain months in the FPS and the other payslips clear show the correct payments, a proper explanation should get that corrected in the AR
It should have said XXXX shares were alloted to fname lname as fully paid at a premium of XXXX during the period.Vechnii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:34 pmThank You very much marcnath for your help in my unaudited account clearly shown on the second page that i have XXXX amount of shares and on page 11 called Notes to financial statement for the period 1 August 2013 to 31 December 2014 its said :marcnath wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:11 pmSince your first application was refused and this was your second application, you cannot submit a third application - that will be rejected outright without any other consideration. I have absolutely no idea how the solicitor is advising you to apply again.
So, your only option is to go for AR.
It appears that you have submitted the unaudited accounts but the accounts does not mention your name against the shares you hold. I assume that information is available in the CS01 confirmation statement that you submitted.
If so, you can argue that evidential flexibility based on 245AA (d)(iii)(1) should have been exercised to ask for the document or grant the application.
(d) If the applicant has submitted a specified document:
(i) ........; or
(ii) .............; or
(iii) which does not contain all of the specified information, but the missing information is verifiable from:
(1) other documents submitted with the application; or
(2) .....
(3) .....
the decision maker may request the correct document under sub-paragraph (b), or may grant the application despite the error or omission, if satisfied that the specified documents are genuine and the applicant meets all the other requirements of the Rules.
There is no guarantee it will be accepted but I think you have a good chance.
On the job creation, without having all the actual numbers it is difficult for me to say.
But if it is just underpayment in certain months in the FPS and the other payslips clear show the correct payments, a proper explanation should get that corrected in the AR
XXXX shares were alloted as fully paid at a premium of XXXX during the period
My point on admin review is that 45 (c)(i) should not been used instead of 45 (e)marcnath wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:38 amIt should have said XXXX shares were alloted to fname lname as fully paid at a premium of XXXX during the period.Vechnii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:34 pmThank You very much marcnath for your help in my unaudited account clearly shown on the second page that i have XXXX amount of shares and on page 11 called Notes to financial statement for the period 1 August 2013 to 31 December 2014 its said :marcnath wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:11 pmSince your first application was refused and this was your second application, you cannot submit a third application - that will be rejected outright without any other consideration. I have absolutely no idea how the solicitor is advising you to apply again.
So, your only option is to go for AR.
It appears that you have submitted the unaudited accounts but the accounts does not mention your name against the shares you hold. I assume that information is available in the CS01 confirmation statement that you submitted.
If so, you can argue that evidential flexibility based on 245AA (d)(iii)(1) should have been exercised to ask for the document or grant the application.
(d) If the applicant has submitted a specified document:
(i) ........; or
(ii) .............; or
(iii) which does not contain all of the specified information, but the missing information is verifiable from:
(1) other documents submitted with the application; or
(2) .....
(3) .....
the decision maker may request the correct document under sub-paragraph (b), or may grant the application despite the error or omission, if satisfied that the specified documents are genuine and the applicant meets all the other requirements of the Rules.
There is no guarantee it will be accepted but I think you have a good chance.
On the job creation, without having all the actual numbers it is difficult for me to say.
But if it is just underpayment in certain months in the FPS and the other payslips clear show the correct payments, a proper explanation should get that corrected in the AR
XXXX shares were alloted as fully paid at a premium of XXXX during the period
You are missing your name in the accounts, which is clearly stated as required in 45(c) (i).
So, again, your argument would be that this information is available in the CS01 (I hope it is, not all CS01 have shareholding information). And if so, the CW could have used evidential flexibility.
Also, somewhere in your AR, try to make clear this is your second application (for example by referring to the investment approval in the 1st application). It is not a justification or reason on its own, but hopefully the reviewer realises it is your last chance.
On the other hand, if that information is not in the CS01 or any other document you have already submitted, there are no options I can see for you to continue.
I tried to explain this earlier.