Ken1234 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:10 pm
BTW we would go to France coming back from Algeria with a ferry, but again I do not think there is or there should be a difference between travelling by ferry / train or plane (?).
Well, there is. Additionally, I believe it depends on where the ferry sails from. The **** at Brittany Ferries won't announce what visas *they* require for travel from Roscoff to Plymouth (their statement only makes sense if they don't accept non-British Article 10 residence cards), but if one travels by ferry from Calais or Dunkirk one deals directly with a British immigration Officer, and so can claim one's entry rights under the freedom of movement directive. Most, but not all, airlines demand a visa-exempt passport, a visa, or a residence card.
Ken1234 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:10 pm
You wrote:
As your children under the age of 21, they have a right of entry into the UK, regardless of whether they are EU citizens.
I do not think it is correct as sometimes children even babies are not allowed back to the UK despite living here (happened to friends and I hear that a lot.)
Living here is not the point. The point is that they are children under 21 of an EEA national they they are travelling with. Birth certificates naming the parents will be required.
Now, a baby of an Indian family here on a Tier 2 visa would not have a right to return without a visa. The difference is one of the privileges of EU citizenship.
Please tell me more about minor children of EEA nationals not be allowed to return with their EEA parent. It's not a problem we see reported here.
Ken1234 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:10 pm
So my main question remains: in order to enter the UK do children need a valid EU passport to prove their EU citizenship if they have 'UK Residence documentation for a National of an EEA State` namely PR and Registration Certificate?
The TIMATIC requirements for a visa national travelling to the UK are:
Visa required.
Visa Exemptions:
Passengers with a biometric residence permit issued by the United Kingdom if:
- the last permission (leave) to enter or remain in the United Kingdom was given for a period of more than six months ; or
- the last permission reads: "Given leave to enter to complete previous leave Section 3(3)(b)" ; or
- passenger is a permanent resident of the United Kingdom returning within two years ; or
- passenger has a passport with a Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode issued by the United Kingdom.
Passengers with an EEA Family Residence Card issued by the United Kingdom.
Passengers with an EEA Family Permit issued by the United Kingdom if the holder is traveling with, or to join the EEA or Swiss national.
Warning:
Passengers with an "Entry Clearance" that has the observation "Indefinite leave to enter the UK":
- must use it for the first time within the validity dates, following entries are allowed after the expiration date; and
- must return within two years of last departure.
I wouldn't expect an airline to accept a DCPR as evidence of EU nationality. The information says nothing about residence certificates. Now, it might work with an Immigration Officer, but Britain's borders are mostly protected by airlines and shipping lines. Ireland, Calais, Dunkirk and Eurostar are the vulnerable points by which someone can enter the UK purely on the basis of their rights.