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Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:23 pm

Hi,

My Husband is British Citizen and I am on Dependant visa.I am currently in india and delivered my first child.
as per the forums, i understood that i have 2 options for my child to travel back UK.
1) Apply British Passport ( which takes 6 months time)
2) Apply indian passport and get CoE-RoA ( this is quicker and takes 2-4 weeks only).

I wanted to go with second option as this is quicker. Now, can somebody guide me how can I apply for CoE-RoA for my child once he will get the indian passport.
- I need the link or form which i need to fill.

i understand that it will be dealt by VFS office only.

Any suggestions are welcome.

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Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:30 pm

Can someone please update on my query?

Thank You!

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by CR001 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:33 pm

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:49 pm

Thank you for the reply.

However, Since i am applying from outside UK, It is taking me to the below link :-

https://www.gov.uk/apply-uk-visa

and then further i need to select the visa type i need to apply. Can you please suggest on - shall i select visa type - join my family in the UK ? and go and fill the form on this link https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/account/register

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by CR001 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:55 pm

Correct links yes but not the category you state, as that would be a visa in the same category you hold.

I cannot see the online options but you should probably select 'Other' then 'Other' again and then CoE.
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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by CR001 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:00 pm

Please refrain from tagging duplicate questions onto other members topics. You have your own topic and should continue here.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:07 pm

Sure..

back to my question :-

I could not find any option as ‘other' in selecting Visa category or where i can select the category of CoE a- RoA. Will this option come after the VISa registration on website - https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/account/register

I tried my level best and read many threads and UKBA Guidelines but could not find which form i should fill to apply RoA.

You might need to dig more to provide me further information.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by CR001 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:09 pm

You need to register for the online website and then you will have three drop down menus for each of 3 questions.
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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:48 pm

Thanks for your reply.

I will apply in few days and will continue for further queries and will update here.

Thanks.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:41 pm

Hi,

As i mentioned earlier, I am applying for CoE RoA and currently in process of getting Indian passport for my child.
My query is-
I have got the birth certificate for the child that does not have child’s name. is it mandatory to have child’s name on the birth certificate?
although the certificate includes - mother’s name, father’s name, address and birth certificate registration ID.

Also, Can someone suggest me how much time is it taking to get the response for ROA application? I just read on UKBA website that it might take 6 months as well (https://www.gov.uk/right-of-abode/apply ... ntitlement ).
I have the appointment for Indian passport on coming wednesday and getting confused if i am doing the right thing to apply CoE - RoA for my child OR shall i go for the British passport directly. Please suggest.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by vinny » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:57 pm

If the child's name is not on the child's birth certificate, then how would anyone know that the birth certificate belongs to this specific child?

Whose names are on the certificate?
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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:00 pm

Hi Vinny,

Thanks for reply, Municipal corporation issues birth certificates without name with a registration id which is unique on basis of father’s name, mother’s name, place of birth and address.

Indian passport office accept birth certificate without name.

however, I have no idea if that would be considered valid for Visa application. please suggest if you have any idea.

Also, it would be great if you can suggest the timelines for RoA application and British passport. which one will be quicker?

Thanks!
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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:38 pm

Hi,

appreciate if someone can respond to the query.

Thanks!

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by sunburn » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:42 pm

OP: Your circumstances are too specific for general answers to be available. My recommendation is to get a BC re-issued in the proper name after the naming ceremony. Your local registrar must probably have a protocol to edit and apply the actual name, with an affidavit from both parents in hand. After all you have used some form of affidavit to apply for a passport in the chosen name. Take the affidavit and passport to the registrar and figure it out. It's unlikely that you can work with just a BC with no name on it. In the best interest of the child, you should get a proper BC with his/her name on it, otherwise they are in for a lifetime of hassles. Fix it now.

For the information of others, the reason why someone would have a birth certificate with no name is that it's fairly common Hindu custom to not name a child at birth, but after a period of time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_ceremony#Hinduism

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:54 pm

Thank you for your reply! I will fix the BC issue before applying Visa, However my second query still un-answered which is the timelines for RoA application and British passport. which one will be quicker?

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by sunburn » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:56 pm

RoA applications from India take 1.5-2 months from recent anecdotal evidence. First time British passports from India take much longer.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:25 pm

Thanks!

I received indian passport of my child now and applying for ROA from VFS website. Below are few queries from the VISA form:-

what should we fill in these questions:-

Section :- PASSPORT & TRAVEL INFORMATION

Q : Do you currently hold, or have held any other nationality ?
A : ?

Q : Are you a national of the country in which you are applying?
A: ?

Section : EMPLOYMENT & INCOME

All the income and expenditure questions seems to be invalid, What should we fill in them?

Section: FRIENDS & FAMILY

Q : Please enter details of what you plan to do whilst in the UK ?

Section: UNDER 18
Q : Who are you staying with in the UK?( No option of Father is coming in Relationship)


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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:34 pm

Any suggestions?

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by sunburn » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:00 am

Just view things from the viewpoint of British authorities and thus:
1. Your child has British and Indian nationality
2. Yes

RoA doesn't require you to justify reasons for your travel to UK, as far as I know. Enter whatever seems reasonable or possible.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:35 pm

Hi
I need to apply for the ROA/COE for my child born in India.

I filled in the form using visa4uk; whilst booking the appointment I have been given several options :
Priority Service
Super Priority visa
Standard

Please suggest what should I select; is there a difference when it comes to the ROA application from India. I can apply from Delhi Or Gurgaon

Please suggest ASAP.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by sunburn » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:47 am

You'd be best served by calling them yourself and asking them what each level of service offers you , and then deciding for yourself.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hunnysia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:46 pm

Hi All,

First of all, Thank you so much for the support. this forum helped me to get the right visa for my daughter.

I got the ROA-COE on Indian passport of my daughter.
Below are the timelines

- Indian passport application form submitted - 21/07/2018
- Passport appointment on - 10/08/2018
- Passport arrived - 15/08/2018

-Visa form applied on 25/08/2018
-Visa Appointment on 29/08/2018
-Visa Arrived on 10/09/2018
There is priority service for Roa-Coe visa for which the SLA is 5 working days.We opt for this service.VFS center officer told me that all settlement visa take 3 weeks time in general and priority visa takes 1 week time for which you have o pay additional amount.

‘Hope the will help someone

Thank you!

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by blacklabel69 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:16 am

Hello hunnysia,

I am in a similar situation and it would be great if you can give some more details.

1. What documents did you submit ?
2. Cost of priority service (website shows two : one at ~21k INR and another at ~57k INR)
3. Did you work out the birth certificate name issue before applying ?

Many thanks,
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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by rd26878 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:03 am

Hello hunnysia,

Congratulation for getting your Child ROA-COE.

I am going to apply the same for my Daughter. Please can you help me in providing list of documents that you submitted . I tried all websites and cant able to find correct list .

As of now I have below docs, let me know if I miss any of them

For my Daughter

1. Birth certificate
2. Hospital records from hospital in India
4. Hospital Discharge Summary Sheet.
5. Print out of the Completed online application form


Our Documents

1.Cover letter from Me and my wife
2.My Naturalization certificate
3.My British Passport original and Notarized copy.
4.My Wife Indian Passport & ILR Originals and Notarized Copies.
5.Indian Marriage Certificate
6.Mine and My wife's Employer Reference letters
7.Mine and My wife's last 6 months Payslips
8.Mine and My wife's last 3 years P60's
9.Some photos from our wedding and Photos with Baby after delivery
10.My Wife's Hospital records from the UK for the first 4 months of pregnancy
11.My Wife's Hospital records from India for the last 6 months of pregnancy
12.Land Registry Document of my House

Thanks in Advance.

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Re: Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode for Newborn

Post by hamakhaa » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:30 pm

Hello rd26878,
Did you manage to get COE/Right of abode for your child?

How long did it take? Apart from the docs you have mentioned above, are there any other documents that you have provided ?

I am looking to apply for my new born child who is in Pakistan and wondering if it is better to apply for this COE rather than a British Passport. Please suggest.

Thanks,
Hammad.

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