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CSI application form - option to select for S041

Post by maximix » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:26 pm

Hi everyone!

I am currently in the process of applying for PR and I am stuck on the CSI question while completing the online application form.

I moved to the UK back in 2013 as a student and have already obtained a S041 form as a proof that I have been insured by Bulgaria while being a student. I have also worked quite actively during my time at University but there was a period of roughly 8 months during which I wasn't employed.

Having said that, I am now at the last page from the application process and I do not see the option S041 to select as proof of CSI, so I was wondering which one I should select instead since I was told by the Bulgarian authorities that this is the only document they can provide in support to my CSI proof but I have also read a few posts on here all saying it is valid proof but none specified what the equivalent option from the official list provided by HO actually is.

Here the list with options as provided by the HO on the Comprehensive Sick Insurance page on the online application form:

1. European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) issued by an EEA member state other than the UK (formerly form E111)

2. Form S1 (formerly E106, E109 or E121)
The S1 form is a certificate of entitlement to health care in another EEA country for a limited duration. It can only be used by state pensioners or dependants of an insured person working in another member state

3. Form S2 (formerly E112)
The S2 covers the actual cost of treatment. For example, insured people who are referred for specific treatment in another EEA country or Switzerland will have the cost of their treatment covered.)

4. Form S3
The S3 form will cover the cost of treatment. For example, retired frontier workers continuing treatment in the member state they previously worked in will have the cost of their treatment covered


Many thanks in advance!

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Re: CSI application form - option to select for S041

Post by maximix » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:24 pm

Anyone? :cry:

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Re: CSI application form - option to select for S041

Post by NikiGio » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:55 am

I know of somebody who had their application rejected after submitting form S041 from Bulgaria - the HO said form S041 is equivalent to form E104, and E104 is not acceptable proof of CSI.

However, after lawyer advice - the person asked the HO for reconsideration, citing that this was the wrong decision. I don't know the outcome, but I think it's worth you applying.

These document from the EU Rights Clinic argues that form S041 and form E104 should be considered an acceptable form of CSI:

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3 ... lBVzX5TLqT

Also see this:

https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/eu-rights-clin ... ePOdfxC4w8

See the section on Bulgarian citizens:

Bulgarian and Romanian citizens may be issued Structure Electronic Document S041 by their social security institution back home which confirms that their citizens remained covered by their home country’s social security system for a specified period of time and therefore were entitled to receive healthcare in the UK at the expense of their home country during that period of time – if you have been issued SED S041, you should download our practice note on SED S041 and include a copy in support of your application for permanent residence.

I would include the Practice Note in your application to prove S041 is an acceptable form of CSI,along with a covering letter explaining the above.
I am not an immigration lawyer. My comments are opinions, not legal advice.

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Re: CSI application form - option to select for S041

Post by maximix » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:53 pm

Thank you NikiGio! That is a very good advice! I will definitely include a covering letter explaining what you said. I don't really see a reason for it to be rejected though, provided that I was also actively working throughout my years at University, but that'd be very unfortunate if it did happen as there is no other document I can physically obtain that could be accepted..

Regarding my original question, however, which option do you think S041 would go under? Would it be option 2, perhaps? I.e. Form S1 (formerly E106, E109 or E121.

Thank you! :idea:
NikiGio wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:55 am
I know of somebody who had their application rejected after submitting form S041 from Bulgaria - the HO said form S041 is equivalent to form E104, and E104 is not acceptable proof of CSI.

However, after lawyer advice - the person asked the HO for reconsideration, citing that this was the wrong decision. I don't know the outcome, but I think it's worth you applying.

These document from the EU Rights Clinic argues that form S041 and form E104 should be considered an acceptable form of CSI:

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3 ... lBVzX5TLqT

Also see this:

https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/eu-rights-clin ... ePOdfxC4w8

See the section on Bulgarian citizens:

Bulgarian and Romanian citizens may be issued Structure Electronic Document S041 by their social security institution back home which confirms that their citizens remained covered by their home country’s social security system for a specified period of time and therefore were entitled to receive healthcare in the UK at the expense of their home country during that period of time – if you have been issued SED S041, you should download our practice note on SED S041 and include a copy in support of your application for permanent residence.

I would include the Practice Note in your application to prove S041 is an acceptable form of CSI,along with a covering letter explaining the above.

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Re: CSI application form - option to select for S041

Post by NikiGio » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:04 pm

maximix wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:53 pm
Regarding my original question, however, which option do you think S041 would go under? Would it be option 2, perhaps? I.e. Form S1 (formerly E106, E109 or E121.
I don't know - technically, the answer is that it's none of these. You might want to consider choosing any of them (like Option 2) just to be able to progress with the application - and then explain in the  covering letter that your form of CSI is not listed in the application form but it should be, quoting the Practice Note etc. as we said before.

maximix wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:53 pm
I don't really see a reason for it to be rejected though, provided that I was also actively working throughout my years at University,
Can you give more detail on the work - did you work continuously all through the 5 qualifying years? How many days/hours per week? Do you have P60s or payslips to prove it?  Did you pay tax and national insurance?   If you paid NI contributions throughout, then you were actually covered under the NHS without need for additional CSI.

Were you studying part-time and working part-time, studying full-time and working part-time, or other arrangement? Roughly how many hours did you work and how many hours did you study, per week?
I am not an immigration lawyer. My comments are opinions, not legal advice.

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