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Differences in ILR and permanent residence?

Post by laodan100 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:31 am

Am I correct in thinking that a British national and a non EEA national can get married, wait 2 years then take a 'life in the UK test' and pay 750 for the non EEa's ILR, whereas a non EEA national and an EU national get married, apply for EEA2 then after five years, EEA4, and get if all for free with no need for a test and then get the same rights? Surely, this is inviting sham marriages between non EEA and EU citizens, especially as the application form EEA4 doesn't even ask for evidence of living together? Are there any differences between the two types of residence?

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Re: Differences in ILR and permanent residence?

Post by JAJ » Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:45 pm

laodan100 wrote:Am I correct in thinking that a British national and a non EEA national can get married, wait 2 years then take a 'life in the UK test' and pay 750 for the non EEa's ILR, whereas a non EEA national and an EU national get married, apply for EEA2 then after five years, EEA4, and get if all for free with no need for a test and then get the same rights? Surely, this is inviting sham marriages between non EEA and EU citizens, especially as the application form EEA4 doesn't even ask for evidence of living together? Are there any differences between the two types of residence?
They can refuse EEA applications on "marriage of convenience" grounds.

The test will be required for citizenship in any case.

The longer wait for permanent residence often means a longer wait for citizenship.

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Re: Differences in ILR and permanent residence?

Post by republique » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:06 pm

JAJ wrote:
laodan100 wrote:Am I correct in thinking that a British national and a non EEA national can get married, wait 2 years then take a 'life in the UK test' and pay 750 for the non EEa's ILR, whereas a non EEA national and an EU national get married, apply for EEA2 then after five years, EEA4, and get if all for free with no need for a test and then get the same rights? Surely, this is inviting sham marriages between non EEA and EU citizens, especially as the application form EEA4 doesn't even ask for evidence of living together? Are there any differences between the two types of residence?
They can refuse EEA applications on "marriage of convenience" grounds.

The test will be required for citizenship in any case.

The longer wait for permanent residence often means a longer wait for citizenship.
Why do you say that??? How exactly do they evaluate and investigate these applications? And if your ILR went quickly, does that mean your citizenship will too?

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Re: Differences in ILR and permanent residence?

Post by JAJ » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:45 pm

republique wrote: Why do you say that??? How exactly do they evaluate and investigate these applications?
You can read the policy instructions at http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk
And if your ILR went quickly, does that mean your citizenship will too?
I was referring to having to wait 5 years (EEA rules) versus 2 years (U.K. rules).

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Re: Differences in ILR and permanent residence?

Post by republique » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:30 pm

JAJ wrote:
republique wrote: Why do you say that??? How exactly do they evaluate and investigate these applications?
You can read the policy instructions at http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk
Can you provide a more precise link rather than just the homepage??

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Post by laodan100 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:43 pm

"The test will be required for citizenship in any case".

Why would they then want to apply for Citizenship? Why bother paying for that?
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Re: Differences in ILR and permanent residence?

Post by laodan100 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:46 pm

This may mean a visa is necessary to visit their home country if dual citizenship isn't possible.

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Post by JAJ » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:51 am

laodan100 wrote:"The test will be required for citizenship in any case".

Why would they then want to apply for Citizenship? Why bother paying for that?
Depends if they want to become British or not.

Of course, if you can't see any benefits, then clearly it's not worth paying anything for.

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Re: Differences in ILR and permanent residence?

Post by JAJ » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:52 am

republique wrote:Can you provide a more precise link rather than just the homepage??
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/policylaw/

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