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I dont believe this, Can it be true ?

Post by charles4u » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:19 pm

1). Examples of added value of Directive 2004/38/EC facilitating daily life of EU citizens and their family members in comparison with previous Community law

Directive 2004/38/EC made travelling easier for family members who previously had to have an entry visa

Angelo (24), an Italian studying biophysics in the Czech Republic, and his Russian wife Svetlana (23) are planning to visit their friends in Glasgow for two weeks in summer. When they called the UK embassy in Prague to arrange for a visa, they were surprised to learn that the EU directive on free movement exempted Svetlana from the visa requirement as she holds a Czech residence card.


2). Directive 2004/38/EC extended EU citizens' family reunification rules

Nina (36) is a successful entrepreneur from the Netherlands who managed to find a window of opportunity at the Belgian market. She would like Karin, her Brazilian registered partner, to come and join her in Leuven. When Karin arrived, she visited the local municipality and wanted to know what kind of paperwork she should prepare. Belgian officials pointed her to the EU directive on free movement and advised her to apply for registration certificate on grounds of her registered partnership with an EU citizen. Belgium treats registered partnership as equivalent to marriage so she will be treated as spouse with all the rights.

3).
Directive 2004/38/EC granted the right to cross borders without passport

Noura (33) of Moroccan origin and her Latvian husband Ivars just landed in Lisbon where they wish spend their holidays. But when passing the border control she finds out that someone has stolen her passport. However, on the basis of the EU directive on free movement Noura is entitled to enter Portugal even without a passport. All she needs to do is to present documents attesting to her identity and family link with Ivars. She checked her luggage and found a driving licence. She was also included as wife at Ivars's Latvian ID card. After few phone calls her right to move and reside freely as Ivar's wife was confirmed and she was let in.

http://www.nieuwsbank.nl/en/2008/12/10/V024.htm (scroll down to see the above post).


Should I believe all this ? Number 1 of my above post, Someone called UK embassy and the embassy said they don't need visa (Even just with a Czech residence permit and not a Residence for family members)? what about EEA who is it meant for and how come they issue it else where ?
Something is not clear and maybe they are lieing to the commission cus I never heard this. Or as it changed in couple of days (This December). This report is 10th of December 2008 so when did this happen for someone to go to UK with just a Czech residence permit not even a Residence card for family members of EU.

And again someone without passport just got in, why are things like this and people keep deceiving people. They didn't mention those that was sent back or deported, They didn't mention those that wasn't allow to board. Who has got it this easy in like this without a passport and even a visa ?
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Post by Richard66 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:37 am

Old hat, Charles! This information has been kicking around for at lest 3 years.
Aiming at travelling to the UK with my wife and not with an EEA FP!

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Post by 86ti » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:24 am

Charles, can you please cite your sources properly?

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Post by Ben » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:39 pm

86ti wrote:Charles, can you please cite your sources properly?
Indeed. It can be tiresome to read some of these posts, (seemingly) randomly plucked from the internet, sans source.

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Post by charles4u » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:28 pm

Richard66 wrote:Old hat, Charles! This information has been kicking around for at lest 3 years.
But according to the link there that I pasted above, Its dated 10th December 2008 and this was the statement said to the EC..

It was the last meeting of the EC this year on the issue of some countries making proposal for the EU Directive 2004/38/EC to be amended, That was one of there reports to Denmark. 10th December 2008

So how come they said this example on this last meeting when its not true anymore or I don't understand something ? (Am sorry if am acting a silly question)

http://www.nieuwsbank.nl/en/2008/12/10/V024.htm
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Post by Richard66 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:37 pm

About Angelo, I remember printing this out last September. I certainly sent it over to the European Commmission when I made my complaint and that was in January.

Anyway, the date is the date in which you open the link. Check today and see if it does not say 11 December 2008.

I have just checked: this memorandum quotes from an earlier one, which no longer seems available. Anyway, from what I remember, all date from before 2006, that is, when even the UK had not transposed the directive or slightly later.
Aiming at travelling to the UK with my wife and not with an EEA FP!

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Post by ciaramc » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:50 am

Sorry charles...I agree with Richard I have seen this a couple of years ago!

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