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webhunter
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Security Clearance

Post by webhunter » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:50 pm

Hi,

I keep seeing several job adverts which say ' you should be security cleared in x, y or z level ?' . I really cant understand what this clearance is and how one can get the clearance?

I am a HSMP visa holder. Could someone please throw some light on this matter.

Many Thanks.

Wanderer
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Re: Security Clearance

Post by Wanderer » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:02 pm

webhunter wrote:Hi,

I keep seeing several job adverts which say ' you should be security cleared in x, y or z level ?' . I really cant understand what this clearance is and how one can get the clearance?

I am a HSMP visa holder. Could someone please throw some light on this matter.

Many Thanks.
I was security cleared when I worked in the Nuclear Industry, and you need to be cleared in this way to work in sensitive arears like nuclear, arms, weapons etc.

Things may have changed but I'd think it unlikely that a foriegner could get this (I'm British born), the Positive Vetting I had I was told cost a fortune, necessiting lots of checks like you wouldn't believe, visits to your friends from guys in suits asking alsorts of personal questions like 'does he drink' ' does carry a lot of money'.....

Bit unfeasable for these guys to travel to your home country etc....

There is a lower level of clearance called BC if I remember correctly, less stringent but I still cant remember any foriegners at all on any of the nuclear installations I worked on.

The checking guys are shit hot, even know if you've been on CND marches.....

Steve

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Post by webhunter » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:06 pm

Thanks wanderer. For now, I will stay away from the security clearance jobs.

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Post by Wanderer » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:16 am

webhunter wrote:Thanks wanderer. For now, I will stay away from the security clearance jobs.
Found this, might find it interesting. Things have changed, PV has gone! And you just have to be resident in UK for a qualifying period, not UK born now it seems:

Basic Checks (BC)
The Basic Check (BC) simply involves confirming the identity of a person. A BC is an essential pre-requisite for all three levels of security clearance. The check is carried out by screening identity documents and references.


Counter-Terrorist Check (CTC)
This check gives people access to government buildings where there is a specific threat from terrorism, however it does not allow access to protectively marked-assets such as classified documents. The check includes a basic check (BC) and also a check against national security records. . To gain CTC clearance you will normally have had to have been resident in the UK for a minimum of 3 years.


Security Check (SC)
This is the most widely held clearance. It is needed for jobs involving long-term, frequent and uncontrolled access to secret material, and occasional and controlled access to Top Secret information. This level of clearance involves a Basic Check plus UK criminal and security records and a credit check. To gain SC clearance you will normally have had to have been resident in the UK for a minimum of 5 years.


Developed Vetting (DV)
This is the highest level of security clearance and is needed for the most sensitive jobs and tasks, involving long-term and uncontrolled access to Top Secret information. This level of vetting involves all Security Check (SC) checks and, in addition, completion of a DV questionnaire, a financial check, checking of references and a detailed interview by a vetting officer. To gain DV clearance you will normally have had to have been resident in the UK for a minimum of 10 years.

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Post by vin123 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:49 pm

It takes about 12-14 weeks to get CTC/BC cleared by MOD.
SC applications are invited and accepted only from existing "suppliers", not on individual basis. Suppliers themselves are in a dog-eat-dog situation due to their large slice in profits and sheer competition from a "large pool" that MOD has.
So generally speaking, its justified when looked from their side if they are not prepared to wait 12 weeks after submitting a candidate for security clearance, because of the cost and time involved.

Hence you find these "suppliers" advertising for security cleared candidates and MOD itself has taken a rather soft-stand on this “policy of advertisement" though this is clearly against govt policy of equal opportunities in employment.

There is a way to get around this, you apply for a permy job (e.g.: a civilian job like IT programmer) and then resign & move out to contracting. Well, this is the ostensible trend followed due to "big" money offered to those with SC clearance.
Govt had announced plans earlier to counter this, but still this is the easiest way to float around in contract jobs in MOD.

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